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HomeMy WebLinkAbout13.C.3. 2008 Traffic Study Update ;3.C. 3. CITY OF SHAKOPEE Memorandum TO: Mayor & City Council Mark McNeill, City Administrator FROM: Bruce Loney, Public Works Director SUBJECT: 2008 Traffic Study Update for the Intersections of Cardinal Drive and Thrush Street and Omega Drive and Thrush Street DATE: July 21,2009 INTRODUCTION: At the November 3, 2008 City Council meeting, traffic studies were presented to the City Council for their review and approval. Two of the studies at the intersection of Cardinal Drive and Thrush Street and Omega Drive and Thrush Street were reviewed and further study was directed by the City Council. The main purpose of further study was to redo the traffic volumes and get accurate counts on pedestri~ traffic. Attached to this memo is the study update for these .. I mtersectIons. BACKGROUND: From the November 3,2008 City Council meeting, City staff did recount the traffic volumes in the intersections mentioned previously and did count pedestrian movements at the time from 7:00 A.M. to 9:00 A.M. and from 3:00 P.M. to 5:00 P.M. Staff also did recount the traffic volumes in this area and did review the method of counting traffic so that traffic was not double counted that was going through the intersection. The results of this further study is as follows and as shown on attached memo from Dale Gade, Graduate Engineer: Cardinal Drive and Thrush Street AUl!ust November Cardinal Drive 1170ADT 614 ADT Thrush Street 1496 ADT 992 ADT Omefla Drive & Thrush Street Omega Drive 1188 ADT 329 ADT Thrush Street 1729 ADT 736 ADT Intersection of Thrush Street and Cardinal Drive From further study done, the traffic volumes are such that the main street, being Thrush Street, does not meet the requirements for consideration of an all-way stop intersection. The traffic volume is very close to meeting a two-way stop sign warrant and also the amount of pedestrian counted in the peak hours, previously mentioned, were above the threshold due to this being a major bus stop location. As part of this update study, staff did review the traffic information with the newly found Traffic Safety Review Committee along with Traffic Consultant, Chuck Rickart of WSB & Associates, Inc. The Committee's review had the following recommendations: 1. No stop signs are warranted at this time. 2. Crosswalk signs should be installed for the sidewalk crossing at the east leg of Thrush Street. 3. A 30 m.p.h. speed limit to be placed on westbound Thrush Street, from Independence Drive. 4. Increase police enforcement of the area. Attached also for Council's review is an e-mail from the resident who organized the petition and their recommendations. Intersection of Thrush Street and Omeea Drive At this intersection, the traffic volumes are lower than what was previously measured due to recounting and the pedestrian counts do not meet any of the warrants. On the basis of this further study, the warrants for an all-way stop are not met. Currently a two-way stop does exist on Omega Drive and staff has prepared a drawing with the signage and striping improvements that could be made in this area to facilitate traffic and pedestrian movements. The Traffic Safety Review Committee reviewed this intersection on June 25, 2009. From this meeting, the Committee along with Janelle Swanson who resides at Omega Drive and Thrush Street had the following recommendations: 1. Install a 30 m.p.h. speed limit sign on eastbound Thrush Street, between Independence Drive and Omega Drive. 2. Place "Cross Street Does Not Stop" signs on existing stop signs on Omega Drive. 3. Consider the construction of a sidewalk on the north side of Thrush Street, from Independence Drive to Omega Drive. 4. Increase police enforcement of the area. This would conclude our study on these two intersections and staff would ask that Council review and approve the signage and marking improvements as identified. AL TERNA TIVES: 1. Approve a motion directing staff to install the signs, as recommended in the memo and report for the intersections at Cardinal Drive and Thrush Street and Omega Drive and Thrush Street. 2. Approve a motion directing staff to install stop signs and markings, as recommended and/or as modified by the City Council. 3. Approve a motion providing direction to staff on a sidewalk connection on the north side of Thrush Street, from Independence Drive to Omega Drive. 4. Table for additional information. RECOMMENDATION: Staff would recommend Alternative No.1 and No.3, to place signage improvements to the intersections as identified on the drawings attached to this memo. Also, direction is needed on a sidewalk connection on the north side of Thrush Street, from Independence Drive to Omega Drive. ACTION REOUESTED: 1. Approve a motion directing staff to install the signs, as recommended in the memo and report for the intersections at Cardinal Drive and Thrush Street and Omega Drive and Thrush Street. 2. Approve a motion providing direction to staff on a sidewalk connection on the north side of Thrush Street, from Independence Drive to Omega Drive. ~o~ Public Works Director BLlpmp ENGR/2009-PROlECTS-2009-COUNCIUfHRUSH-STREET-STUDY ..,.' - -- 1111 . :--: .. , .-. - . --_ . II , "t", III" I.." ~ . -._1.- ~ ;, . . -.. j ".. ' .. - , - - '. " _. - - I _ ..' . ,> .....,. I "', . ' - . .-,- · · .1-11' · · >, ~w · II '.' >, ..:-1'. - . . " - . . - ... 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BACKGROUND: Staff has completed further review of the Cardinal Drive/Thrush Street and Omega Drive/Thrush Street stop sign requests. In addition to turning movement and pedestrian counts staff recounted vehicles to exclude double counts, which occurred on the previous study. Double counts occurred when a vehicle was counted entering the intersection and then counted again while exiting. Below is a table showing results of the two counts. Cardinal Drive & Thrush Street AUl!ust November Cardinal Drive: 1496 ADT 614 ADT Thrush Street: 1170 ADT 992 ADT Omel!a Drive & Thrush Street AUl!ust November Omega Drive: 1188 ADT 379 ADT Thrush Street: 1729 ADT 746 ADT Pedestrian counts were also obtained by counting all pedestrians that crossed the intersection from 7am-9am and 3pm-5pm. These times were selected to account for peak vehicle volumes and school pickup/drop off times. The resulting data was compared to City Policy and warrant summaries have been attached for your review. RECOMMENDATION: Cardinal Drive & Thrush Street: Staff recommends installing stop signs on Cardinal Drive and placing pedestrian crossing signs with a marked crosswalk at the existing pedestrian ramps on Thrush Street. This should establish the right of way and provide heightened awareness for pedestrian crossmgs. Omega Drive & Thrush Street: This intersection does not meet the policy for an all way stop. (See Attached Warrant Summary) Staff does recommend placing 30mph speed limit signs on the east leg of Thrush Street to remind motorists of the legal speed along Thrush Street. Other possible suggestions to heighten driver/pedestrian awareness would be to attach "Cross Traffic Does Not Stop" signs on the stop signs located on Omega. This would remind motorists and pedestrians to look both ways before crossing. wKU Dale Gade, E.!. T Graduate Engineer Does the Intersection of Thrush Street and Cardinal Drive Meet the Warrant for a Two-Way Stop Sign? A stop sign is warranted if two of the following four conditions exist: (Conditions are from the Shakopee Signing Manual, October 26, 1998) 1.) If the major street traffic volume is more than 1000 vehicles per day and the Minor street traffic volume is less than 50% of the major street traffic volume. Thrush Street has an ADT of 992 and Cardinal Drive has an ADT of 614. This intersection does not meet the traffic volume requirement. 2.) There has been more than two reported accidents, per year in the previous two years or, three reported accidents in the previous years of a type correctable with stop sign installation. The intersection of Thrush Street & Cardinal Drive had zero (0) reported accidents in 2007 and zero (0) reported accidents in 2008. The intersection does not meet the accident requirement. 3.) The pedestrian volumes across the minor approach (that which would be stopping) is more than 15 pedestrians per hour during the A.M. and P.M. peak traffic hours. The intersection of Thrush Street & Cardinal Drive does meet the pedestrian volume requirement. 15 pedestrians were observed crossing the intersection from 7am -9am and 24 pedestrians were observed crossing from 3pm-5pm. 8 ofthe 39 were crossing for recreational use and 31 were for the school bus. 4.) If the safe stopping distance of the minor approach is restricted by less than 300 feet by horizontal and/or vertical roadway alignment or by other permanent obstructions. Sight distance is not a concern at this intersection. The intersection does not meet the sight distance requirement. Does the Intersection of Thrush Street and Cardinal Drive Meet the Warrant for an All Way Stop? A stop sign is warranted if three of the following five conditions exist: (Conditions are from the Shakopee Signing Manual, October 26, 1998) 1.) If the major street traffic volume is more than 1500 vehicles per day and the minor street traffic volume is greater than 750 vehicles per day. Thrush Street has an ADT of 992 and Cardinal Drive has an ADT of614. This intersection does not meet the traffic volume requirement. 2.) There has been more than two reported accidents, per year in the previous two years or, three reported accidents in the previous years of a type correctable with stop sign installation. The intersection of Thrush Street & Cardinal Drive had zero (0) reported accidents in 2007 and zero (0) reported accidents in 2008. The intersection does not meet the accident requirement. 3.) If the pedestrian volumes crossing any approach is more than 15 pedestrians per hour during the A.M. and P.M. peak traffic hours. The intersection of Thrush Street & Cardinal Drive does meet the pedestrian volume requirement. 15 pedestrians were observed crossing the intersection from 7am -9am and 24 pedestrians were observed crossing from 3pm-5pm. 8 of the 39 were crossing for recreational use and 31 were for the school bus. 4.) If the safe stopping distance on the uncontrolled approach is restricted by less than 300 feet by horizontal and/or vertical roadway alignment or by other permanent obstructions. Sight distance is not a concern at this intersection. The intersection does not meet the sight distance requirement. 5.) If the 85th percentile speed in the intersection is greater than 35mph and highest reported speed with two or more observations greater than 45mph. The highest recorded speed at this intersection was found to have an 85th percentile speed of 25 mph. There were zero (0) reported speeds greater than 45 mph. The intersection does not meet the speed requirement. City of Shakopee ~ Volume Data - Thrush Street and Cardinal Drive "All volumes are those of vehicles entering the intersection. SHAKOPEE COMMUNITY PRIDE SINCE 1857 November 5th - November 7th November 5th - November 7th Cardinal Cardinal Thrush Thrush Cardinal Cardinal Thrush Thrush Time Drive Drive Street Street Time Drive Drive Street Street INorth! ISouth! lEast! IWest! North South East est 11:00 3 7 8 11:00 5 31 17 12:00 8 16 17 12:00 7 23 24 13:00 9 22 18 13:00 9 18 21 14:00 11 26 16 14:00 7 15 27 15:00 8 57 10 15:00 8 17 17 16:00 23 60 26 16:00 38 16 47 17:00 22 24 35 17:00 21 38 46 18:00 27 41 45 18:00 17 44 66 19:00 31 38 34 19:00 30 36 49 20:00 13 26 26 20:00 11 33 37 21:00 10 15 19 21:00 13 22 18 22:00 11 14 10 22:00 11 11 13 23:00 4 3 6 23:00 3 7 7 0:00 5 3 0 0:00 2 3 8 1:00 1 0 1 1:00 8 2 5 2:00 2 0 0 2:00 0 1 0 3:00 1 0 1 3:00 0 0 0 4:00 0 1 1 4:00 0 0 0 5:00 0 2 1 5:00 0 2 1 6:00 3 5 1 6:00 5 3 5 7:00 7 24 1 7:00 3 23 14 8:00 20 47 39 8:00 11 48 42 9:00 8 90 44 9:00 10 69 23 10:00 13 59 37 10:00 7 46 12 IDmIY_ IDaiW_ Vehkre ----- - . Vehicle ' Count Count August 18th - August 20th August 18th - August 20th Cardinal Cardinal Thrush Thrush Cardinal Cardinal Thrush Thrush Time Drive Drive Street Street Time Drive Drive Street Street INorth! (South! (East! (West! North South East est 13:00 10 17 43 15 13:00 7 17 22 9 14:00 10 20 57 14 14:00 16 20 31 9 15:00 17 20 51 10 15:00 14 15 40 9 16:00 16 15 65 28 16:00 20 23 79 26 17:00 16 21 91 10 17:00 23 41 105 18 18:00 16 34 85 17 18:00 13 32 80 12 19:00 11 16 57 15 19:00 16 25 64 8 20:00 10 16 41 9 20:00 10 18 46 10 21:00 5 13 31 9 21:00 5 12 33 4 22:00 3 1 16 3 22:00 1 7 19 1 23:00 3 4 10 2 23:00 2 5 9 0 0:00 4 3 6 3 0:00 1 0 2 0 1:00 0 0 4 0 1:00 0 0 2 0 2:00 1 0 2 0 2:00 0 0 2 0 3:00 0 0 0 1 3:00 0 0 0 2 4:00 1 1 2 0 4:00 0 1 0 0 5:00 7 11 11 8 5:00 7 16 15 7 6:00 11 24 33 13 6:00 9 35 36 17 7:00 33 44 66 41 7:00 26 38 53 34 8:00 17 29 46 16 8:00 14 29 44 26 9:00 6 19 27 8 9:00 15 20 30 9 10:00 12 17 31 8 10:00 21 12 28 8 11:00 4 22 31 5 11:00 15 10 29 22 12:00 12 21 48 19 12:00 8 15 35 11 IDaIW _ IDaIW _ VBhic/o ---:-- Vehle/o' . _ Count Count ~ ~ CITY OF SHAKOPEE DATE PREPARED: SHAKOlPEE Turning Movement/Ped Count 11-24-08 CDUINr1YI'DIlSN:BDIIT w (fiJ > 0:::: 0 NORTH -1 10 I 17 1 134 1 <{ z 0 0:::: 7AM - 9AM <{ J l " 0 CD ~ "- IT] [}IJ -+ ... []I] IT] ~ ~ QTI THRUSH STREET '\ t r 15 Peds 13 I 113 I 147 I Volume Observed at Intersection: 221 North - 18.6% Cardinal Drive = 104 East - 20.8% Thrush street = 117 South - 28.5% West - 32.1% INTERSECTION CARDINAL DRIVE & THRUSH STREET SHAKOPEE FROM 11 5 08 TO 11 7 08 SOURCE Traffic Counts ~ CITY OF SHAKOPEE DATE PREPARED: SHAKOmE Turning Movement/Ped Count 11-24-08 <XUIDNnY1'llIIIlSH:z18!l'1 w (];) > n::: 0 NORTH -I \3 I 119 I \ 14 I <( z 0 n::: 3PM - 5PM <( J l " 0 lTI ..# "- ~ em .... .... QTI IT] ~ ~ Q9J THRUSH STREET , t r 24 Peds 13 I 112 I 128 I Volume Observed at Intersection: 231 North - 15.6% Cardinal Drive = 79 East - 48.5% Thrush Street = 152 Sou th - 18.6% West - 17.3% INTERSECTION CARDINAL DRIVE & THRUSH STREET SHAKOPEE FROM 11 5 08 TO 11 7 08 SOURCE Traffic Counts Does the Intersection of Thrush Street and Omega Drive Meet the Warrant for an All Way Stop? A stop sign is warranted if three of the following five conditions exist: (Conditions are from the Shakopee Signing Manual, October 26, 1998) 1.) If the major street traffic volume is more than 1500 vehicles per day and the minor street traffic volume is greater than 750 vehicles per day. Thrush Street has an ADT of 746 entering the intersection and Omega Drive has an ADT of 379 entering the intersection. This intersection does not meet the traffic volume requirement. 2.) There has been more than two reported accidents, per year in the previous two years or, three reported accidents in the previous years of a type correctable with stop sign installation. The intersection of Thrush Street & Omega Drive had zero (0) reported accidents in 2007 and zero (0) reported accidents in 2008. The intersection does not meet the accident requirement. 3.) If the pedestrian volumes crossing any approach is more than 15 pedestrians per hour during the A.M. and P.M. peak traffic hours. 4 pedestrians were observed crossing the intersection from 7am.-9am. and no pedestrians were observed crossing from 3pm-5pm. The intersection of Thrush Street & Omega Drive does not meet the pedestrian volume requirement. 4.) If the safe stopping distance on the uncontrolled approach is restricted by less than 300 feet by horizontal and/or vertical roadway alignment or by other permanent obstructions. Sight distance is not a concern at this intersection. The intersection does not meet the sight distance requirement. 5.) If the 85th percentile speed in the intersection is greater than 35mph and highest reported speed with two or more observations greater than 45mph. The highest recorded speed at this intersection was found to have an 85th percentile speed of 37 mph. There were zero (0) reported speeds greater than 45 mph. The intersection does not meet the speed requirement. *This intersection is currently two-way stop controlled on Omega Drive. City of Shakopee ~ Volume Data. Thrush Street and Omega Drive *AII volumes are those of vehicles entering the intersection. SHAKOPEE COM:MUNl'IYPRIDE SlN"CE 1857 November 17th - Novemeber 19th November 17th. Novemeber 19th Omega Omega Thrush Thrush Omega Omega Thrush Thrush Time Drive Drive Street Street Time Drive Drive Street Street (North\ (South \ (East\ (West\ (North\ (South\ (East\ (West\ 17:00 4 20 72 13 17:00 4 28 84 16 18:00 0 17 68 5 18:00 10 30 58 30 19:00 2 16 42 7 19:00 6 12 43 12 20:00 0 12 26 4 20:00 1 8 30 0 21:00 4 6 22 5 21:00 3 4 25 6 22:00 0 2 9 1 22:00 2 4 14 2 23:00 1 1 11 0 23:00 0 0 6 1 0:00 1 0 5 1 0:00 0 0 3 0 1:00 0 0 0 0 1:00 0 0 0 0 2:00 0 0 0 0 2:00 0 0 2 0 3:00 0 0 1 2 3:00 0 0 0 2 4:00 3 3 3 2 4:00 0 1 0 1 5:00 2 8 4 2 5:00 3 14 4 2 6:00 4 31 12 13 6:00 11 25 12 10 7:00 8 32 23 26 7:00 11 50 19 29 8:00 8 24 25 21 8:00 14 23 20 20 9:00 4 16 14 5 9:00 4 21 12 5 10:00 0 9 8 4 10:00 0 6 8 3 11:00 0 9 16 8 11:00 2 15 26 6 12:00 6 8 20 7 12:00 2 15 16 2 13:00 1 9 14 7 13:00 4 16 22 8 14:00 2 10 22 8 14:00 4 16 16 10 15:00 4 10 40 20 15:00 2 10 61 12 16:00 13 30 90 22 16:00 10 26 88 16 I Daily I Daily _ VehIcle Vehicle.. · "'H' . · Count Count . . ; September 10th - Septemeber 12th September 10th - Septemeber 12th Omega Omega Thrush Thrush Omega Omega Thrush Thrush Time Drive Drive Street Street Time Drive Drive Street Street /North) (South) lEast' IWest) (North) (South) (East) (West) 16:00 16 49 9 37 16:00 23 40 24 37 17:00 15 59 35 56 17:00 19 54 31 57 18:00 13 31 29 56 18:00 9 31 20 55 19:00 5 42 17 30 19:00 9 38 19 35 20:00 8 35 20 25 20:00 10 26 12 22 21:00 5 14 5 11 21:00 0 13 10 11 22:00 7 8 1 7 22:00 7 11 3 4 23:00 2 6 4 4 23:00 3 7 4 5 0:00 2 5 0 0 0:00 2 7 1 2 1:00 0 0 0 0 1:00 0 1 0 0 2:00 3 0 0 3 2:00 0 1 0 0 3:00 0 0 0 1 3:00 0 0 0 1 4:00 0 1 0 1 4:00 0 0 0 3 5:00 1 0 2 14 5:00 2 2 2 11 6:00 0 3 5 28 6:00 1 2 3 31 7:00 7 14 4 93 7:00 7 19 8 93 8:00 5 21 11 57 8:00 13 15 13 63 9:00 3 21 11 35 9:00 4 21 7 31 10:00 5 9 6 24 10:00 4 10 5 38 11:00 6 22 5 20 11:00 8 30 13 29 12:00 3 16 10 22 12:00 13 34 11 32 13:00 9 11 4 29 13:00 5 43 4 32 14:00 6 11 7 25 14:00 11 25 7 24 15:00 10 26 13 27 15:00 3 29 19 48 Da~/y ~~::< '. : ~> ~ ",,~::~>?;:.<' '\"':;'~~'~1~:::>~ ~:;?, >~"~. : ::;" ~:::~ >\:~. -~<:~ .'. '?~~: t Daily VehIcle : <'J~;~lk':';"':";"'~y:";l: "~,, ,;';:.' ~<}: Vehicle Count ~:!,:-:~.,,, ~~,(~ :~:~.:';~':~: .;:",(~.L~~..~::; ::r:.\ ~'. l' ~::>'> :~,.,~,{~,. ."r_: { ~~;1{~;~~"',~ Count ~ CITY OF SHAKOPEE DATE PREPARED: SlHfAKOmE Turning Movement/Ped Count 12-2-08 <DaUlHrltPlillIlllSlNal1lllll7 (f;) W > n::: NORTH 117 I I 1 I 10 I 0 <C (') w 7AM - 9AM :2 J l " 0 [0 ~ -- IT] [29] -+ ... GD [J]J ..,. ~ IT] THRUSH STREET '\ t r 4 Peds 164 I 12 I 10 I 7: 25am Bus picked up 1 kid at stop sign on south leg of Omega Dr. 8: 44am Bus picked up 2 kids at stop sign on south leg of Omega Dr. Volume Observed at Intersection: 163 North - 11.0% Omega Drive = 79 East - 25.8% Thrush street = 84 Sou th - 40.5% West - 22.7% INTERSECTION OMEGA DRIVE & THRUSH STREET SHAKOPEE FROM 12 1 08 TO 12 1 08 SOURCE Traffic Counts ~ CITY OF SHAKOPEE DATE PREPARED: SlHAKOlP'JEE Turning Movement/Ped Count 12-2-08 CXIAUiIlYPlmBSINaI28III' (f;J W > 0:::: NORTH 111 I \1 I 10 I 0 .a: 0 w 3PM - 5PM :2 J l " 0 QTI J '- [I] []I] ... +- @] [ill -- ~ [TI THRUSH STREET '\ t f o Peds 128 I 12 I 12 I 2: 57pm Bus dropped 1 kid off on Omega St. ""50 ft North of CL-CL wi Thrush 4: 07pm Bus dropped 2 kids off on Thrush St. ""60 ft West of CL-CL wi Omega Volume Observed at Intersection: 174 North - 6.9% Cardinal Drive = 44 East - 15.5% Thrush street = 130 South - 18.4% West - 59.2% INTERSECTION OMEGA DRIVE & THRUSH STREET SHAKOPEE FROM 12 1 08 TO 12 1 08 SOURCE Traffic Counts Bruce Loney From: Tim Holzhueter [tholzhueter@cseced.org] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 20099:57 AM To: Bruce Loney; Elisa Holzhueter Cc: Brian Clark; Mike Hullander; Mark McNeill Subject: Re: Thrush Street and Cardinal Drive Thanks for the information Bruce, We can't attend the meeting, but we just want you to remember that we are NOT in favor of a DNo-way stop sign on Cardinal. We need a 4-way stop or a 2-way stop on Thrush at our intersection. Our last choice would be doing nothing & leaving it uncontrolled. There are no sidewalks on the wesDNard stretch of Thrush and the street is filled with kids under the age of 10. It would be a nightmare for the young families in our neighborhood if you put up stop signs on Cardinal and not on Thrush, essentially giving all of the thru traffic on Thrush a license to speed up their runs down our street. In my driveway/front yard alone (the first house east of the intersection, I often have 6 to 10 kids playing. It really scares all of us that you were considering putting just a 2-way on Cardinal in at our intersection. The stop sign criteria that the city is using is not sufficient in addressing the needs of all of Shakopee's young, suburb- type neighborhoods. The last thing 95% of the families in the new neighborhoods want is traffic flow. There are just too many young children and roads without sidewalks to sight "traffic flow" as a reason not to be using 4-way stop signs. I hope that your new committee discusses the fact that the safety of kids in neighborhoods around the studied intersections needs to play into these stop sign decisions. Thanks - Please let me know what you decide, Tim Tim Holzhueter Carver-Scott Educational Cooperative District 930 401 East 4th Street Chaska, MN 55318 (952) 368-8859 tholzhueter@cseced.orCl >>> "Bruce Loney" <BLoney@ci.shakopee.mn.us> 6/8/20093:39 PM >>> Mr. and Mrs. Holzhueter, it has been awhile since we last communicated about the above referenced intersection and I want to inform you of what the city has done since last year. We have now formed a traffic safety review committee that is comprise of the City Administrator, Police Officer, Public Works Superintendent and the City Engineer. We will be meeting on June 25, 2009 to discuss the intersection studies done last year and the additional counts taken last year as well as other traffic related issues in the city. This committee was formed so residents can voice their concerns on traffic safety issues with the committee. This email is to invite you or other representatives to discuss the intersection study at the June 25th meeting. We do meet in the afternoon from 2:30 pm to 4:30 pm. Please let me know if this time and date works for you or other representatives of the neighborhood. Bruce Loney Public Works Director office no.: 952-233-9361 mobile no.: 612-369-7488 1