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OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADJ. REGULAR SESSION SHAKOPEE,NITNNESOTA APRIL 18,2006
The Boys Scouts presented the colors.
Mayor Schmitt called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. with Council members Steve
Clay, Terry Joos, Steve Menden, and Matt Lehman present. Also present were Mark
McNeill, City Administrator; Kris Wilson, Assistant to the City Administrator; Jim
Thomson, City Attorney; Judith S. Cox, City Clerk; R. Michael Leek, Community
Development Director; Bruce Loney, Public Works Director/City Engineer; Mark
Themig, Director of Parks, Recreation and Facilities, and Sherry Dvorak Parks and
Recreation Supervisor.
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
Mark McNeill stated that item 5.A.5.FinaIPlat for Ridge View Farms, be removed from
the agenda. The developer needed to meet with staff first and it would be brought back at
the next meeting.
Joos/Menden moved to approve agenda as amended. Motion carried 5-0.
Mayor Schmitt reported that he attended a luncheon about the Scott County Co-op. Mr.
Schmitt stated that the luncheon showed just how much the Co-op benefits the City of
Shakopee.
Casey Block, President of the Shakopee Jaycees, and Justin Scully, Vice President,
presented the Council with a donation of$25,000 for Tahpah Park Improvements.
Lehman/loos offered Resolution No. 6407, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee,
Minnesota Accepting a Donation of $25,000 from the Shakopee Jaycees, and moved its
adoption. Motion carried 5-0.
Mayor Schmitt asked for any. changes to the consent agenda. A revised memo was
presented at the meeting for 5.FA Purchase of Recycling Bins; and, 5.D.3 support the
Clean Water Legacy Act - Res. No. 7404 was removed from Consent Agenda.
Joos/Clay moved to approve the consent agenda as amended. Mr. McNeill read the
Consent Agenda business for the record. Motion carried 5-0.
J oos/Clay moved to authorize publication of notice of availability of the draft EA W for
"The Bluffs" in the EQB Monitor and distribution of the draft EAW to agencies for
review and comment. (Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6400, a Resolution of the City of Shakopee, Minnesota
Upholding the Board of Adjustment and Appeals Determination Regarding a Sign
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Variance for Property at Outlot B, Riverside Fields First Addition (proposed Kwik Trip
at Crossings Boulevard and County Road 18), and moved its adoption. (Motion carried
under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay offered Ordinance No. 754, an Ordinance ofthe City of Shakopee, Minnesota,
Approving the Renaming of Cambridge Court to Langston Court in Stonebrooke Fourth
Addition, and moved its adoption. (Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to authorize the appropriate City officials to execute a contract with
WSB & Associates, Inc. for the preparation of an update to the City's sanitary sewer plan
in accordance with the March 17th proposal submitted by WSB (not including the
optional task of preparing a computer model), and at a cost not to exceed $29,819.
(Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to direct staff to utilize the re-purchase agreement with Siemon
Implement, Inc. on the John Deere Gator for the price of$I,597.50, with the purchase
price to be funded out of the Internal Service Fund. And direct staff to invoice Shakopee
Downtown Partnership $1,597.50 to reimburse the fund. (Motion carried under Consent
Agenda).
Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6397, A Resolution Approving Plans and
Specifications and Ordering Advertisement for Bids for CSAH 83 Trunk Sewer
Extension, From Church Addition to River Valley Estates Project No. 2006-6, and moved
its adoption. (Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6408, A Resolution Approving City Staff to Enter into
a Consent to Encroach Agreement with 1773 Switchgrass Circle (Lot 68, Block 1 of
Riverside Fields Fourth Addition), and moved its adoption. (Motion carried under
Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to authorize the low quote from Visu-Sewer Clean & Seal, Inc. in the
amount of$10,650.00 for the lining of the newly installed manhole along the MCES ,
(Metropolitan Council Environmental Services) Prior Lake interceptor sanitary sewer.
(Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to declare 32 bicycles as surplus property and authorize staff to
appropriately dispose of these items. (Motion carried under Consent Agenda).
(CC Document No. 407)
Joos/Clay moved to authorize staff to declare a 1994 Suzuki Swift (VIN
#JS2AC35S0R5100886), a 1992 Plymouth Voyager (VIN #2P4GH2536NR583530), and
a 1992 Plymouth Acclaim (VIN #IP3XA4639NFI59916) as surplus property. (Motion
carried under Consent Agenda). (CC Document No. 408)
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Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6405, a Resolution of the City of Shakopee, Minnesota
Authorizing the City to Submit a Baseball Tomorrow Fund Grant Application for the
Tahpah Park Youth Baseball Field Construction, and moved its adoption. (Motion carried
under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to authorize renewal of the agreement with the Shakopee Jaycees
providing concession service at Tahpah Park through July 31, 2006. (Motion carried
under Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to end the 12-month probationary period, and grant full time status to
Kristine Wilson, Assistant to the City Administrator. (Motion carried under the Consent
Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to authorize hiring Steve Quaday for the position of Custodian at Grade
1, Step E of the 2006 City Pay Plan, contingent on the successful completion ofthe City's
required pre-employment screening. (Motion carried under the Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to approve the bills in the amount of$947,593.13 plus $82,362.00 for
refunds, returns, and pass through for a total of$I,029,955.13. (Motion carried under the
Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to adopt the findings of the January 24th Vision Implementation and
Goal Setting Workshop. (Motion carried under the Consent Agenda). (CC Document No.
409)
Joos/Clay moved to authorize the appropriate officials to sign the "Recycling Program
Agreement" for 2006 by and between Scott County and the City of Shakopee. (Motion
carried under the Consent Agenda).
Joos/Clay moved to award a bid to Busch Systems International for 3,000 18-gallon
curbside containers for $17,880, and further authorize purchase of 100 lids for said
containers, at an additional price of $41 0 (including shipping). (Motion carried under the
Consent Agenda).
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Mayor Schmitt asked ifthere was anyone in the audience who wanted to comment on
items that were not on tonight's agenda. There was no one.
Michael Leek presented the council with a request for vacation of 4th and 5th Avenues
between Webster and Adams, vacation of Webster St between 4th and 5th Avenues, and
vacation of 60 feet of the alley east of Webster St between 4th and 5th Avenues. The
Planning Commission recommended denial of vacation. However, the Planning
Commission did recommend that the City take some action to address the behaviors that
were mentioned in the vacation request.
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Cncl. Menden asked Mr. Leek if there was any idea what might happen on this portion of
the Correctional Facility. Mr. Leek stated that he was not aware of any plans for the
future of this portion of the property. Mr. McNeill stated that a number of years ago there
was discussion of a juvenile facility on the north side of 6th Ave, but nothing has been
discussed lately. The State has been protective of their property and would like to keep it
open for future use.
Mayor Schmitt asked Mr. Leek ifthere are utilities in the easements. Mr. Leek stated that
SPUC noted utilities in 4th Ave and Webster St. Mr. Loney stated that on Webster St.
from 3rd Ave to 6th Ave. there is a forced main from Rahr Malting. Although it might be
considered private service, it does serve a big sewer function for current flow. There is
storm sewer, water mains, and sanitary sewer in these easements as well.
Cncl. Lehman asked if these areas were to be vacated, would the City continue to
maintain the current easements. Mr. Leek stated that the City would maintain easements.
Cncl. Lehman asked if the City vacated these areas, would any future property owner
who wanted to develop be required to put in roads for access. Mr. Leek stated that if there
were a large enough parcel that required access, yes the property owner would be
responsible for putting it in.
Lehman/Ioos moved to open the public hearing on the proposed vacation of 4th and 5th
Avenues between Webster and Adams, vacation of Webster Street between 4th and 5th
Avenues, and vacation of60 feet of the alley east of Webster Street between 4th and 5th
Avenues. Motion carried 5-0.
Mayor Schmitt stated that there is nothing in the long-range comprehensive plan for the
:rv1N State Correctional Facility. Mayor Schmitt stated that they are encouraging
legislators to work with the City on any future plans for the facility.
Mayor Schmitt asked the audience if there was anyone who wanted to speak on the
subject.
Robin McCullough, 935 W 5th Ave, stated that the petition was inspired from long term
problems. Mr. McCullough stated that he has lived in this neighborhood for many years.
Trespassing, dumping, parking, theft, graffiti, illegal vehicle operation, public urination,
wandering foot/bike traffic, etc. are all examples of the unwanted behavior that occurs in
this area. Mr. McCullough stated that he would like more control of the area and would
like to clean up this area of town. Mr. McCullough stated that if these areas are vacated
he will be able to link his two properties together and would gain limited usable space.
Mr. McCullough stated that if this area was vacated he would be able to limit the
undesirable activities that are occurring. He understands that part of 4th Ave W would be
used for a trail to connect Riverview and Holmes Parks. Mr. McCullough stated that he
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understands the City's need to retain easements in the area. Mr. McCullough stated that
the unspecified trails through portions of these properties need to be addressed. Mr.
McCullough stated that a regular trail would be better suited and that this could maybe be
addressed when future utilities go in. Mr. McCullough stated that he did not believe the
water main on Webster St. from 3rd Ave to 5th Ave was complete; it was only complete
from 5th Ave to 6th Ave on Webster St. There would also be another smaller water main
from Cass St. to Webster St. to tie them together, but SPUC did not have a time frame on
this. Mr. McCullough believes that this petition also agrees with the Natural Resource
Specialists' opinion that the slope and topography of this area be maintained as an asset
to the City.
Cncl. Lehman asked Mr. McCullough how the proposed vacation would eliminate the
described problems. Mr. McCullough stated that he would like to place a barricade or
unlocked gate by lots 1 and 10 (that would be tied together) that would allow for utility
access, but prevent unwanted traffic. Mr. McCullough would also like another gate at 4th
Ave Wand Adams St.. that would still allow access for maintenance. Mr. McCullough
stated that his alley would dead-end at the connection of lots 1 and 10 and signage should
be placed stating that it is a private access or dead-end.
Cncl. Lehman asked Mr. McCullough if there would be a "mini homeowner's
association" that would plow the alley. Mr. McCullough is proposing that the City still
plow the alley from off of Cass St. The smaller alley way forIots 1 and 10 would be Mr.
McCullough's and the Department of Correction's responsibility. Cncl. Lehman
expressed concern that a dump truck would not be able to back up. Mr. McCullough
pointed out that small trucks plow the alleys and felt that it would be possible for the City
to still maintain as is. Mr. McCullough proposed that if it were a problem, the alley is
wide enough to make it into a turn around at the end of the alley.
Cncl. Clay asked Mr. McCullough how a fence or gate would stop the foot traffic and
ATVs. Mr. McCullough stated that there will never be 100% compliance, but felt that
once boundaries were established and it looked like private property greater compliance
would occur. Also if it were his property he would have the ability to ask people to not
trespass; now he cannot do that.
Mayor Schmitt asked if garbage collection occurred on the alleyway. Mr. McCullough
stated that garbage was not picked up in the alley per Council decision several years ago.
Mr. McCullough stated that there are 3 driveway accesses off the alley; 911 5th Ave,
Darren Giese, and himself
Mayor Schmitt asked Mr. Loney to comment on the utility issues. Mr. Loney stated that
typically alleys do not just end, but are made to be able to drive through. This is for
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maintenance and safety issues. Mr. Loney felt that maybe if a portion of the alley was to
be vacated, it should be considered to vacate the entire alley.
Mr. McCullough stated there are 3 other dead end alleys in the City. He understands that
the City doesn't want to create a whole bunch, but wanted to point out that others do
exist. Mr. McCullough stated that Mr. Giese did entertain the idea of paving his property
and 911 5th Ave W. together and out the alley to Cass Street.
Cncl. Lehman stated if an agreement was made with the owners to blacktop the entire
alley; it would alleviate the maintenance issue. Mayor Schmitt stated that the City had
done this is the past and it created several problems. Cncl. Joos stated that the problems
are still not rectified.
Menden/Joos moved to close the public hearing. Motion carried 5-0.
Joos/Menden offered Resolution No. 6402, a Resolution of the City of Shako pee,
Minnesota Denying the Vacation of Rights-of-Way of 4th Avenue West and 5th Avenue
West Between Webster Street and Adams Street, Webster Street Between 4th Avenue and
5th Avenue, and 60 Feet of Alley East of Webster Street Between 4th Avenue and 5th
A venue, and moved its adoption.
Cncl. Joos stated that he could see this being appropriate in the future, but that it is not
the right time now because the City cannot anticipate what the future development will
be. Cncl. Joos stated that the problems are more of an enforcement issue than a planning
issue.
Cncl. Lehman stated that it is disheartening that a property owner has to come forward to
ask for vacation of property in order to enforce existing laws better than the City can do
with its' resources.
Mayor Schmitt stated that a dead end sign should be placed at the alley to discourage
entering. Also at the end of the. alley it could be possible to put a barricade or posts to
prevent entering. Mayor Schmitt also asked if anyone knew ifthe City or its' contractors
disposed of concrete or similar products on that property.
Cncl. Menden stated the he would vote against the vacation because he did not believe
the vacation would solve the trespassing issues. Cncl. Menden also stated that he Council
has learned the hard way to be very careful about issuing vacations.
Motion carried 5-0.
Joos/Lehman moved to direct staff to work with the landowner on issues of trespassing
and dumping and P.D. enforcement. Motion carried 5-0.
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Ryan Hughes, Natural Resource Specialist, presented Council with the Federal Clean
Water Legacy Act which is a state initiative to help achieve and maintain the water
quality standards for surface waters as required by the Federal Clean Water Act of 1972.
This Actwould provide funding for cities that need to expand, repair, replace, or improve
the performance of wastewater treatment and stormwater systems.
Cnd Menden stated that this was brought to the Council at the last minute because he
had asked staff to look into it at the last minute. This is important to him.because he has
seen the problems that occurred with the cities of Annandale and Maple Lake, and noted
that many cities will face these problems including Shakopee. Cnc!. Menden stated that
this legislation would designate funding and hoped this might not end up as another
unfunded mandate.
Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6404, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee, Minnesota
Supporting the Clean Water Legacy Act (SF 762), and moved its adoption. Motion
carried 5-0.
Liaison Reports were given by Council Members.
Menden/Joos moved to recess for the Economic Development Authority Meeting at 7:59
p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
Mayor Schmitt reconvened the meeting at 8:40 p.m.
Mr. Leek presented the council with a comprehensive plan amendment to re-guide
property from Rural Residential (RR) to Single Family Residential, extend Metropolitan
Urban Service Area (MUS A), and rezone property from Agricultural Preservation (AG)
to Urban Residential (R-IB). The parcel is approximately 80 acres with 40 acres lying
north of County Road 16 and south of Riverside Fields. The other 40 acres lies southof
County Road 16 and east of Foothill Trail. There are two operative comprehensive plans.
There is a plan which was updated in 1999 and accepted by Met Council in 2002. That
plan guides the southerly portion for Rural Residential. The 2003 plan guides it for Low
Density Residential, which is generally single family but not always. The 2003 plan was
scheduled to be heard by the Community Development Committee at the Met Council
today, but was canceled and rescheduled for May 1. It will then go to the Met Council
after that. Since the 1999 plan already calls for single family zoning on the north side,
there is no need to re-guide it. However, the south side does need to be re-guided for low
density residential. There is also a request to extend MUSA to the entire 80 acres, which
is two parcels, but owned by the same party. The request for the southerly zoning is RIB,
which is a Single Family Detached Zoning District know as Urban Residential. On April
6th, a public hearing was held before the Planning Commission. The staffs'
recommendation to the Planning Commission was to consider anR-IA Zoning due to
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different natural resource issues. The Planning Commission recommended R-1A zoning
on the south side of County Road 16 and R-1B on the north side and asked staff to look
into the lot depth issue in R-1A zoning. The Council is not approving a design at this time
because it can change significantly with the plat review. The original concept provided
for larger lots in perimeter area, and 65' wide lots in other areas. The R-1B Zoning
minimums are 60' in width at the front setback lines and 100' in depth. The R-1A
minimums are 80' in width at the front setback lines and 160' in depth. This depth is of
concern to Scott O'Brien and is requested to be addressed. This is proposed to be a single
family development on both sides of County Road 16. The Planning Commission has
recommended to the City Council to re-guide the southern portion to low density, extend
MUSA to the entire 80 acres, and re-zone the north half to R-IB and the south half to R-
lA.
CncL Joos asked if the 160' depth in R-1A is going to be looked at because this issue has
come up before. Mr. Leek stated that this is being addressed. Staff is going to bring back
the results of a survey of other similar ordinances to the Planning Commission along with
possible solutions.
Cncl. Lehman asked if the Planning Commission is leaning toward the 12,800 square foot
minimum for R-1A zoning. Mr. Leek stated that it was heading in that direction. CncL
Lehman asked if the R-1A rezoning is approved for the southern side, would the Council
be proceeding with the current R-1A guidelines or the suggested R-1A guidelines. Mr.
Leek stated that staff would be asked to make sure that there is a change in the R-1 A
zoning before the southern plat would be brought back.
Mayor Schmitt asked about the utilization of acres between the R-1B and R-1A zoning.
Mr. Leek stated that the Met Council is guiding for land uses that would allow for
affordable housing. The City doesn't have a square foot minimum, but there is a de-facto
lot minimum because of the lot width and.depth requirements. Mayor Schmitt stated that
only 70% of the lot in R-1B is utilized and 88% in R-IA, and are we therefore forcing
open space in the R-IB. Mr. Leek stated that was not the case. The difference comes
from differences in infrastructure requirements between the two zonings. Mr. Leek stated
that it doesn't result in a net difference because of the lot standards.
Cncl. Joos stated that the decision on R-IA zoning was to take advantage of some of the
natural amenities, use the trees, slopes, waters, etc. so they don't bulldoze it flat. It was to
allow for larger homes on larger lots. Unfortunately builders have put larger houses on
smaller lots. Cncl. J oos stated that the concept of larger homes on larger lots
unfortunately doesn't allow for affordability either. Mr. Leek stated that R-IA does exist
in the Classics Area of Southbridge Development which was supposed to be smaller,
somewhat traditional. houses. However, they ended up being similar sized, but on smaller
properties than Savannah Pointe.
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Mayor Schmitt stated that he believed that this was an indication that the City should
consider a maximum square footage for a house on a 6,000 sq. foot lot.
CncI. Joos stated that we need to be careful when doing this because these ideas promote
segregation. The City wants some small houses/lots together with some large houses/lots.
Mayor Schmitt stated that the City wants to encourage lots larger than 6,000 square feet
to meld with the larger lots of other developments already in the area. This creates
consistency with what the Council has approved in the past.
Cncl. Joos stated that he believes the idea was to create a variety oflot sizes so thatthere
were different levels of housing within a development. A resident could start in a small
home within the development and move up to large one as needed and then move back to
smaller home when they were older.
Cncl. Menden asked Mr. Leek If the entire property was in Phase 1 of the MUSA plan.
Mr. Leek stated that the north side is Phase 1, but the south side is not. Mr. Leek stated
that because of opportunity to plan and develop the entire 80 acres as one site, the
possibility of making it all Phase 1 should be considered.
Cncl. Menden asked Mr. Leek how much of MUS A Phase I is still left. Mr. Leek stated
that there are 2 significant properties, the 2nd Shutrop property and the Widman property
adjacent to it. Currently Phase 1 goes up to the western boundary ofthe southern portion
of the property in discussion. Phase 1 then goes up to include the north side ofthe
property in discussion. All properties south of County Road 16 are in Phase 2. The reason
this was made Phase 2 was because at the time there were issues with SPUC
infrastructure. Now that the sewer plan update is underway, the Phases will be updated to
reflect these changes.
Cnc!. Lehman asked Mr. Leek if he knew how SPUC felt about extending MUSA to this
property. Mr. Leek stated that SPUC recommended approval he believed, but would have
to double check. Typically SPUC gives approval and says that water availability will be
based on their standards. Cncl. Lehman asked if City infrastructure and capacity was
available in this area. Mr. Leek stated that sanitary sewer capacity is available and
roadway improvements would take place as a part of the development. Part of the platting
process might also consider roadway connections to the east and west ofthe property.
Storm drainage is also provided as part of the plat process.
Scott O'Brien, 477 Spruce Street, stated that they originally requested R-IB zoning to
allow for mix within the development. Mr. O'Brien stated that the 160' lot depth
requirement for the City of Shakopee is inconsistent with neighboring cities including
Chaska, Savage, and Prior Lake. These lots depths are extrapolated from the minimum of
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width and square footage requirements. Mr. O'Brien felt that the R-IB mix allows for
affordable and high end homes within one development. The scoring system will dictate
the quality of the development because it does not allow for a developer to put in a whole
bunch of homes. Mr. O'Brien suggested that the City look at a hybrid zoning, where both
parcels would be zoned R-IB and that a certain percentage of the lots meet the R-IA and
R-IB zonings. The property owner to the east of the northern half ofthe property stated
that he was open to the idea of working together to have a roadway connection between
the two developments. Mr. O'Brien stated that the northern 40 acres doesn't have the
same natural amenities as the southern 40 acres. Both the south and north are basically
soybean fields, with a few natural amenities. Mr. O'Brien stated that Riverside Bluffs and
Glacier Estates both had far more natural amenities and both ended up in the R-IB
zoning. Therefore, Mr. O'Brien felt that his property should be considered for R-IB
zoning to remain consistent with neighboring properties.
Mr. Leek stated that he was uncertain as to whether or not the Council can legally allow
R-IB Zoning and then require a certain number of lots met different zoning.
Cncl. Clay asked if it was possible to zone the northern part R-IB and the southern part
R-IA and overlay the entire property with a PUD to getthe mix on both sides of County
Road 16. Mr. Leek stated that yes, a PUD could be used. However, there is significant
area on south property and a portion on the north property that would have to remain
untouched. The PUD would also require adding 15% usable open space area in addition
to what is seen on the concept. Mr.. Leek also stated that the PUD mechanism wasn't
meant to be used for this idea.
Mr. O'Brien stated that he was not interested in the PUD concept. Mr. O'Brien stated that
he has spoke with the former planner for Burnsville and the City ofBurnsville has
stipulated percentages within the development. Jim Thompson, City Attorney, stated that
there probably is a way to do this, there is probably something in their ordinance or else
they use a PUD. Mr. Thomson stated that he wasn't aware of anything the Council ~ould
do tonight to allow for this.
Mr. Leek recommend that the issue of mixing lots sizes be deferred a couple of weeks so
staff can research how other cities may have accomplished the mix zoning.
Cncl. Joos would also like to see the lot size issue further researched and then brought
back to Council. Cncl. Joos would like to decide if the property should have MUSA
extended to it first.
Cncl. Lehman understood that if the Council approved as presented the southern portion
would be re-zoned R-IA under the new R-l A guidelines. Mr. Leek stated that it would
depend on the time frame. There would be a small window oftime that the property
would fall under the current R-IA zoning guidelines.
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Mayor Schmitt stated that under the present R-IA guidelines, 3 lots are required per acre.
There would be no way to allow 5 lots per acre on part of it and 3 lots per acre on the
other part of it. Another arrangement would need to be made.
Mr. Leek stated that he didn't agree with this. Under current zoning, a net density is
looked at. This might mean that some areas are more dense, while other are less, but the
overall density is what is considered. Therefore it could be possible that Mr. O'Brien's
concept could work.
Mayor Schmitt stated that he didn't think it would be possible to achieve that overall net
density because ofthe lot depth and width minimums. The R-IA calls for an 80'
minimum frontage. In order for this concept to happen, you would have to allow
something substantially less. This would change the whole character of the zoning, which
goes back to PRD and other troublesome zoning.
Menden/Joos offered Resolution No. 6409, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee
Approving a Request to Amend the Comprehensive Plan to Re-guide Property to Single
Family Residential and To Extend MUSA to Property Located North and South ofCSAH
16 East of Foothill Trail, and moved its adoption. Motion carried 5-0.
Menden/Joos offered Ordinance No. 755, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee,
Minnesota Approving a Request to Rezone Property from Agriculture Preservation (AG)
Zone to Low Density Residential (R-IA) and Urban Residential (R-IB) with the
understanding that the City Council will be looking into the lot requirements R-IA, and
moved its adoption.
Cncl. Lehman questioned the timeline to implement the changes in the zoning and the
timeline for Mr. O'Brien's development. Mr. O'Brien stated that he didn't have a
problem with the timeline as long as it wasn't too long. Mr. Leek stated that it would
probably be 3 to 4 months before the changes would be presented to Council.
Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. Leek presented the Council with the requested Resolution which is consistent with
the Board of Adjustment and Appeals' decision to approve the requested Conditional Use
Permit for Kwik Trip, Inc. at the northwest corner of Crossings Boulevard and County
Road 18. Mr. Mark Noble and Mr. Leek meet with Scott Teigen from Kwik Trip, Inc.
earlier in the afternoon. Mr. Teigen stated that they do have a store that has limited hours
of operation, however it is because of their experience with that store that they would
choose not to operate within limited hours. Mr. Lyek stated that deliveries would likely
be 1 fuel tanker, but possibly up to two; 1 grocery truck, which would be a semi-truck;
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along with other delivery trucks of a smaller scale. Me Leek corrected the resolution to
state that Finding No.1, Condition D reads "It is anticipated that no more than three
trucks per day will be servicing the facility." The item of screening was discussed in their
meeting and options of moving plant material in their current design plan to provide more
effective screening was proposed. Mr. Leek stated that traffic studies have been reviewed
by WSB. No additional traffic studies are required, however, if the first access remains a
right in, there will be a need to reconfigure the westerly access to make sure there are no
issues with the trucks turning left and the residential traffic turning right. Mr. Leek
clarified that Condition 28 of the Resolution does not automatically mean that if
improvements are needed in the future, K wik Trip, Inc. would be responsible. There is a
process that would take place which would determine any benefit to the property and the
amount that is owed by the property owner. Mr. Leek clarified Condition 42 ofthe
Resolution to read "The number of pumps shall not exceed eleven (11) and the number of
fueling stations shall not exceed sixteen (16)." The clarification includes the E-85 pumps.
Mr. Leek stated that Lisa Masica would like the Council to consider an additional
condition of a yearly review of Conditional Use Permit.
Cncl. Lehman asked Mr. Leek to clarify the number of pumps and fueling islands. Mr.
Leek stated that there would be no more than 11 pumps and 16 fueling stations.
Mr. Joos asked Mr. Leek to clarify that if the Council would receive complaints of the
Conditional Use Permit that the Council is able to address those complaints at anytime.
Mr. Leek stated that the Council is able to address complaints at anytime. Mr. Joos stated
that he felt that most complaints are resolved in the beginning and then there are no issues
to discuss at all of the yearly reviews. He would prefer to allow residents to bring forward
complaints at anytime as opposed to have a mandated review.
Cncl. Lehman asked Mr. Leek in regards to Condition 21 if the applicant would be
willing to offer their site traffic patterns to the City, and would this be of a benefit to the
City. Mr. Leek stated that the applicant has provided their anticipated site traffic analysis
and they have been reviewed by WSB, which is what Condition 21 is asking for. Mr.
Loney stated that the City has only received a one page document from Jim Benshoof
that said what the traffic generation would be based on the use, but never received a
detailed analysis including numbers and directions which is what Cncl. Lehman is asking
for. Mr. Loney stated that a more detailed analysis needs to be provided as part of the
record. Cncl. Lehman stated that he would like to see K wik Trip, Inc. provide a detailed
analysis that the City's consultant can look at and verify to be consistent with how a gas
station really operates. Mr. Loney stated that Condition 21 does require that information.
Mr. Leek suggested that Condition 21 be clarified to include "traffic movements."
Mayor Schmitt stated that it is impossible to screen all properties entirely from all
vantage points because of the 3 story homes. Mr. Leek stated that he reviewed another
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gas at County Road 83 and County Road 42. At that property there is a substantial berm
and the City of Prior Lake required larger trees, but there still is not perfect screenings.
Mr. Leek stated that staff is more concerned about addressing where you can get the best
impact from the placement of plantings, which would be along the corner of Crossings
Boulevard and the entrance into the site and along the westerly boundary.
Mayor Schmitt asked the audience for brief comments that have not been heard before.
Lisa Masica, 1834 Penstemon Lane, stated that Kwik Trip, Inc. should have told the
Council that they do have other stores operating at limited hours in good faith. Ms.
Masica stated that she is concerned about their lack of good faith and if promises and
conditions will be upheld. Ms. Masica offered to the Council a condition of a fee that
would be paid to the Riverside Fields Association which would allow the residents to
build a fence around the pool area to protect it from K wik Trip, Inc. Ms. Masica stated
that she would also like to see this fee applied to the other businesses in that area in order
to shield the pool from them as well. Ms. Masica encouraged the Council to make
reasonable conditions on the Conditional Use Permit and to keep residents as the main
concern of the issue.
Rajeev Rai, 8425 Blazing Star Circle, urged the Council to reconsider their decision to
allow for 24 hour operation because of the fact that total screening cannot be
accomplished. Mr. Rai stated that if screening cannot be accomplished, then the hours of
operation should be limited to 5 a.m. to midnight. Mr. Rai stated that he would like the
Council to address the residents' concerns. Mr. Rai stated that the Council has said that
the pool is in a bad place because of the developer's and that there will be head light
wash because it cannot be bermed and screened. Mr. Rai stated that the Council has
recognized that PRD Zoning doesn't work, but they as residents are left to deal with this
bad choice.
Ramon Patole, 1824 Fescue Circle, asked Mr. Leek if the street along the westerly side
that goes all the way to the north ofthe property would be a one-way or two-way. Mr.
Leek stated that it would have to be two-way. Mr. Patole stated that Ryland Homes
originally showed them the plans which showed a tot lot next to the swimming pool and
felt the developer has been deceiving. Mr. Patole stated that there is a school bus stop at
the corner of Pen stem on Lane and Crossings Blvd where a number of school buses stop
several times throughout the day. These school bus stops will cause a backup of traffic
which will be increased because of the traffic from the gas station. Mr. Patole urged the
Council to consider limiting the number of hours because it has been proven that there is
another gas station 5 miles down the road that operates on limited hours, it doesn't have
to be a 24 hour world. Mr. Patole urged the Council to take this new information into
consideration.
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Joos/Lehman offered Resolution No. 6399, A Resolution ofthe City of Shakopee,
Minnesota Upholding the B"oard of Adjustment and Appeals Determination Regarding A
Conditional Use Permit for Property at Outlot B, Riverside Fields First Addition
(proposed Kwik Trip at Crossings Boulevard and County Road 18) as clarified, and
moved its adoption. Discussion followed.
Cnc1. Clay stated that in keeping with the fact that most gas stations are in a highway
zoning and that this is a community commercial zone, it should be a more muted use than
the typical gas station. Cncl. Clay stated that it should be reasonable to restrict hours,
especially since other Kwik Trip stations operate at restricted hours.
Cncl. Joos stated that Kwik Trip is a more wholesome company which doesn't sell dirty
magazines, etc. It could be possible to have another business in this property that would
operate 5 a.m. to midnight, but they might not operate as wholesomely. Cnc1. Joos stated
that the precedence of the hours of operation in which everyone is referring is in another
City and was not set by the City of Shakopee. He is not opposed to Kwik Trip being
open 24 hours.
Cncl. Menden stated that he looked forward to Cncl. Clay's amendment.
Cncl. Lehman stated the limited hours of Prior Lake Kwik Trip is just for a limited period
of time, and eventually it will be a 24 hour operation. Cncl. Lehman stated that he
disagreed with the proposed fees. Cncl. Lehman stated that his neighborhood watch
group asks for donations and recommended that their association consider the same.
Cncl. Lehman stated that it was improper to point the finger of the issues with the pool at
Kwik Trip and that he would support the 24 hour operation because the Prior Lake Kwik
Trip will also eventually be operating 24 hours.
Mayor Schmitt stated that the westerly road should be designed and constructed so that it
looks just like any other intersection to the west, it should line up like a typical street
corner. Mayor Schmitt stated that he does not feel comfortable telling one gas station that
they can operate 24 hours and another gas station that they cannot operate at 24 hours,
when both stations are near to residential areas. Mayor Schmitt stated that he does not
believe that it is possible to screen the properties. Mayor Schmitt stated that he cannot do
anything about the zoning that is in place. Mayor Schmitt also stated that he would like to
see something resolved with the pool, but unfortunately he cannot do anything about the
developer's placement of the pool.
Motion carried 4-1, Menden dissenting.
Mr. Loney presented the Council with Plans for River District Trunk Sewer
Reconstruction, Phase IT and Reconstruction of CSAH 101 from CSAH 17 East 13 70 feet
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to Mill Pond Bridge, Project No. 2006-3. Part ofthe relocation of the trunk sewer
includes relocating the sewer line from under the mobile home park to CSAH 101. State
Turnback Highway Funds will be used to help fund the project. Mr. Loney stated that the
Council needs to decide what type of street lights it would like placed along CSAH 101,
as an entry to the city..Mr. Loney stated that there is no proposed sidewalk on south side
ofCSAH 101, but an 8' trail on north side that connects to Memorial Park. Mr. Loney
stated that the access at Duffy's Hardware will be reduced in size. Apple Ford will have 2
accesses, just as it is now. The resident access on the east end will remain. The end of the
watermain is at the resident house. There is no watermain that serves the north side of
CSAH 101, including Dangerfield's. Both access points to Dangerfield's, and one to
Fajita Republic will remain. The existing sewer under the trailer park will be relocated
west of the trailer park. There are several services that are not being used and those will
be removed as part of this project. There are two agreements that will be discussed later,
a County Cooperative Agreement which would allow the County to fund the project and
the City would reimburse them for the sanitary sewer, storm sewer, and water main costs.
The second agreement would be between the City and Shakopee Public
Utilities which would require the Public Utilities to reimburse the City for the water
mam.
Cncl. Lehman stated that he preferred lighting that would be appropriate for vehicles
traveling 30-35 miles per hour, unlike those located downtown that are more for
pedestrians. Cncl. Lehman asked Mr. Loney ifthere is currently water service to
Dangerfield's Restaurant. Mr. Loney stated that there is not and he would like to seethat
service go in with this project. Currently the property owner and SPUC are discussing the
situation. The major issue is who would pay for that.
Dan Jobe, Design Engineer from Scott County, presented the Council with information
on the project. The access from CSAH 101 to the mobile home park will be combined
from two driveways into one. The driveway to Fajita Republic will be widened, while the
driveways to Dangerfield's and Panzanella will remain the same because there is a power
pole between them. Originally the rehabilitation of the bridge was going to be included in
the project, but the costs were so high that it is more economically feasible to replace it
and make it a separate project. The County is hoping to replace it next year. On the south
side ofCSAH 101, Duffy's Hardware access will be narrowed and closed off to Apple
Ford. The access to Apple Ford will be moved to west so as to line up with the mobile
home park access on the north side. The curb will be pushed out 2 feet on each side to
provide for 5 lanes. There will be two lanes for each direction of traffic with a center left
turn lane which will improve traffic safety. Consolidating accesses will also improve
traffic safety. Originally, CSAH 101 was to be closed during construction, but it was
decided to leave it open and the construction will be done in phases. The project will take
longer to complete because the work area is limited because the road will not be closed.
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The north half will be done first in three phases, and then south half in three phases.
There will be detour signs posted to inform residents of where to turn to gain access to
businesses along the construction. The utilities are located in bed rock which will make
the project more difficult. Phase 1 will begin on the western portion of the project on
Naumkeag St. Phase 2 begins by the mobile home park. Phase 3 will be located by Fajita
Republic and Dangerfield's. The phases are the same for the south side of CSAH 101.
There will be meetings with the businesses to keep everyone informed and address any
issues that might occur. Bids will open May 30th. Construction is scheduled to begin in
the end of June. Heavy construction will begin after July 4th. The project is approximately
50-55 working days. Construction will probably end in September.
Cnd. Lehman asked Mr. Jobe ifit would be more practical to place a two in one access at
Duffy's and Apple Ford. Mr. Jobe stated that currently there are curb stop barriers that
won't allow traffic to enter the Apple Ford property from that access point, so it wouldn't
make sense to put in the access. Mr. Jobe stated that the County also wants to minimize
the number of accesses to increase traffic safety.
Mayor Schmitt asked Mr. Jobe about the width of the bridge in regards to the five lanes.
Mr. Jobe stated that currently the bridge is not wide enough, so it will be striped to not
allow for the additional lane. After the bridge is replaced the striping will reflect the new
width of the bridge.
Cncl. Clay asked Mr. Loney when the decision in regards to light poles needs to be made.
Mr. Loney stated that there would be 4-6 weeks because the bids do not open until May
30th. Mr. Loney will work with Ms. Wilson to get a unified lighting plan for the Council.
Mayor Schmitt stated that Mr. Loney was asking a lot of the Council to make a decision
on lighting in just 4-6 weeks. This lighting affects the whole corridor all the way to Rahr
Malting.
Cncl. J oos stated that this would be an opportune time to bury the electrical wires along
the corridor which would assist in making the whole corridor look nicer. Mr. Loney
stated that the issue of who should pay for the under grounding of the wires would need
to be discussed with SPUC. Mr. Loney stated that the issue of a sidewalk on the south
side of the road also needs to be discussed with the Council. Typically on collector
streets, there is a trail on one side and sidewalk on other. This sidewalk would be an
additional cost to the City.
Mayor Schmitt stated that the City should provide for the sidewalk, but it wouldn't have
to built at this time. Depending on what redevelopment happens on the south side, there
might. some day be a need to have a sidewalk to access those properties by foot. Mr.
Loney stated that it would be cheaper to add the sidewalk now, but the grading is such
that a sidewalk could be added at anytime. Mr. Loney stated that the current project does
not propose to replace the sidewalk on Burger King, but this could be added to the
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project. However, if it is added the power pole under grounding issue would need to be
brought up.
Cnd. Joos stated SPUC has a fund that could provide for the under grounding, but only
intermittently. If the City continues with projects along CSAHI01, SPUC's fund will be
overwhelmed. Cncl. Joos stated that the City should discuss funding options with SPUC.
The Council should also have a consistent policy, with all the lines either above ground
or under ground.
Mitch Rasmussen, Scott County Engineer, presented the Council with other
improvements that will be done along with the CSAR 101 project. Improvements on
County Road 17 at the railroad crossing will be made which include placing small
medians. Once these medians are in place, the railroad will be able to put up crossing
arms. The improvement to c.R. 17 will not take place at the same time as the
construction on CSAH 101 so as not to tie up the traffic too much. The paving and
striping will be done prior to 7:00 a.m. to minimize the disruptions in traffic problems.
County Road 83 turn lanes at Valley View Road will also be done as part of the project.
The northbound left turn lane on C.R. 17 at Vierling Drive will be extended to give more
storage. By including all these items in one project, the County is able to reduce the costs
ofthe projects. The Mill Pond Bridge is not in plans for next year. However, Mr.
Rasmussen will be presenting the idea to the County Board this summer. Mr. Rasmussen
encouraged the City to look at possibly adding decorative options for bridge. There
would be additional cost for the decorative options, but Mr. Rasmussen stated that it
. really wasn't that much. The County would pay for the cost of a standard bridge, and any
additional cost would be paid for by the City. The County will probably continue with the
improvements to CSAH 101 because of the access to trunk highway turn around funds.
There will be access issues throughout the process because unfortunately the County is
not able to put in accesses on CSAH 101 like they do on new projects. However, if the
City has a planned vision for access, lighting, etc., the County will take that vision into
consideration when making decisions on access issues for the future projects. This vision
would also make it easier for the County to deal with businesses during the projects. The
County would also be willing to help finance because it is a County Road located within
the City.
Menden/Clay offered Resolution No. 6396, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee,
Minnesota Approving Plans and Specifications for the Reconstruction ofCSAH 101,
From CSAH 17 East 1370 Feet to the Mill Pond Bridge, Project No. 2006-3, and moved
its adoption; moved to authorize the appropriate City officials to execute a Construction
Cooperative Agreement with Scott County for the County Project No. CPlOl-land City
Project No. 2006-3; and moved to authorize the appropriate City officials to execute a
Reimbursement Agreement with. SPUC, as approved by the City Attorney, for their share
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of costs associated with County Project No. CPlOl-l and City Project No. 2006-3.
Motion carried 5-0.
Cnct. Menden directed staff to provide a follow up on overhead power lines, lighting,
bridge design, curb cuts, and redevelopment on the east end of town.
LehmanlMenden moved to extend the Council meeting by 15 minutes. Motion carried 4-
1, Joos dissenting.
Mr. Loney thanked the County representatives for presenting this important issue at such
a late hour.
Mr. Loney presented the Council with the final phase of the River District Trunk Sewer
Line Reconstruction, Phase III from Adams St. to Fuller St., Project No. 2007-1. The
River District was built right along the river's edge because that was the easiest route to
build. The sewer main should be moved away from the river as far as possible, but the
cost is high. If it cannot be moved, there will need to be riverbank stabilization to help
protect the pipe. A combination of riverbank stabilization and relocation might be an
option as well. The Army Corp. of Engineers priced the project at $l,OOO/ft with 1800
feet for a cost of $1. 8 million. The most thatthe City could get for funding from them
would be $1 million and funding is not guaranteed. There used to be a ledge that covered
the pipe and sloped out toward the river. This ledge has disappeared over time. There is
currently inflow and infiltration in the system from the flood. Another issue that would be
corrected with this project is storm water drainage. Currently there are storm water pipes
that drain from the top of the bluff and erode away the riverbank. Mr. Loney emphasized
that he would like to see the pipe relocated as high up as possible. This would allow staff
to access manholes in floods which cannot be done if the floodwater covers the manhole.
The proposal presented is to prepare plans and specifications for this project. The
maximum fee for the design services is $106,904.00, which includes an allowance of
$12,000 for extensive soil borings that need to be done. Mr. Loney stated that once Rahr
Malting is off the City's sewer system, the City will be eligible for SAC credits which
will be over $2 million that could be used for sewer projects, riverbank stabilization, or
whatever the Council may want to do with it.
Cncl. Lehman stated that when Jeff Weyandt and he met with Rep. Klein, Rep. Klein
stated that he wanted the results of this study. Mr. Loney stated that the alternate route
report should be ready by June and that Rep. Klein would receive a copy of the report.
Joos/Clay offered Resolution No. 6410, A Resolution ofthe City of Shako pee, Minnesota
Ordering the Preparation of Plans and Specifications for the River District Trunk Sewer
Reconstruction - Phase III, From Adams Street to Fuller Street Project No. 2007-1, and
moved its adoption; and moved to authorize the appropriate City officials to execute an
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extension agreement with Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik & Associates, Inc. in providing
design engineering services, as necessary for this project and as per their proposal.
Cncl. Menden asked if competitive bids were needed for the design engineering services.
Mr. Thomson stated that bids were not needed because they were consulting services. Mr.
Loney added that Bonestroo did the first phase of the project and did a good job. Plus
they are very familiar with the all the aspects of the bedrock and riverbank stabilization
that it seemed logical to work with them,
Motion carried 5-0.
Ms. Wilson presented the Council with a request to add language to the City's Personnel
Handbook that would allow for military differential pay for employees called to active
military duty. The Public Works' Union asked that this be included in the contract, but
staff wanted to discuss this as part ofthe personnel policy. The policy before the Council
is a draft that allows for flexibility by the Council. The proposal would require that a
request for differential pay be made before the employee leaves, and that the employee
must be called to active military duty for at least 30 days. It also allows for employees
who were on active military duty between January 1, 2003 and January 1, 2006 to request
retroactive assistance which would be limited to $2500. There is one employee that is
asking for retroactive assistance, Rodney Beck from the Public Works Department.
Lehman/Joos offered Resolution No. 6406, A Resolution of the City of Shakopee,
Minnesota Amending Section V-I of the Personnel Handbook for Employees of the City
of Shakopee to Include Language Related to Military Differential Pay, and moved its
adoption.
Cncl. Clay asked if this was just for full-time employees. Ms. Wilson stated that it was
just for full-time employees.
Cncl. Clay asked if the specifics of the administration of this policy would be stated in
the Personnel Handbook. Ms. Wilson stated that an application form and required
documents will need to be drafted. Mr. McNeill stated that this will then be brought back
to Council for approval.
Cncl. Clay asked if employees who volunteer for active duty would be eligible for this
pay. If they volunteer, they are creating their own financial hardship and should the City
reimburse them. Mr. McNeill stated that the current policy does not differentiate if the
employee volunteers or is called. Ms. Wilson suggested that a question be put on the
application form which asks if the employee is volunteering for active duty or has been
called for active duty and then the Council would receive the application and decide what
assistance they would wish to provide.
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Mr. Lehman asked if there was a limit to the amount of pay. Mr. McNeill stated that there
are not many policy examples to follow because only 3 other local governments provide
differential pay.
Motion carried 5-0.
J ooslLehman moved to approve the payment of $2500 to Rodney Beck as retroactive
Military Differential Pay. Motion carried 5-0.
Cncl. Lehman stated that he receive a petition from residents to address a street traffic
flow issue at 11th Ave. and Harrison. Mr. Loney stated that he had received this request.
The residents had been sent a copy of the stop sign policy to them. Now that the streets
have been swept and winter is over, traffic counters will be placed and monitored.
Joos/Menden moved to adjourn to Wednesday, April 26, 2006, at 7 p.m. Motion carried
5-0. The meeting adjourned at 11:15 p.m.
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(lith S. Cox
City Clerk
Jessica Adamietz
Recording Secretary
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
ADJ. REGULAR SESSION SHAKOPEE,NITNNESOTA APRIL 26, 2006
Mayor John J. Schmitt called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. with Council members
Steve Clay, Terry Joos, Steve Menden, and Matt Lehman present. Also present were
Mark McNeill, City Administrator and Judith S. Cox, City Clerk.
LehmanlMenden moved to delete item 3 from the agenda, Presentation of Building
Permit and Development Fee Study by Jesse Hart, Springsted, Inc. Motion carried 5-0.
Mark McNeill presented the Council with a request to review fire officer pay. This item
had been brought to the Council last November, but the budget had already been set. The
item is now being brought before the Council for consideration for Fiscal Year 2007. The
additional cost for the request would be $13,300. Mr. McNeill had no comments or
recommendations onthe issue for Council.
Cnd Menden asked what the status is of moving to a full-time fire chief. Chief Ed
Schwaesdall stated that his projection in the past was for 2007. However, he was elected
to a two-year term in November, therefore he won't be done until 2008. He would prefer
to not address the issue until 2008 so he can finish his term. He would like to address the
full-time chief position in 2007 to decide if a full-time chief is needed in 2008 or if it
should be delayed to 2010. Mr. Schwaesdall would like to consider budgeting for a full-
time secretary to address the memos and other paperwork that occur for the 2007 budget.
Cnd Menden asked what a full-time fire chief would be paid for a city of our sized
department. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that it would be about $80,000.
Cncl. Joos stated that he would like to consider full compensation and not just salary,
when addressing the pay request in order to put it into context. The average pay is
$4,000-$6,0000/year of hourly pay. The retirement pay is $7,500/year of
service/firefighter which is the State maximum. Also, some officers have vehicles as
well, which averages to $6,000-$8,000/year. For the top three positions, it approaches
$20,000/year in complete compensation. Cncl. Joos stated that he will be looking at the
benefits for the City of Shakopee as he decides on pay increases.
Mr. Schwaesdall stated that he doesn't consider the vehicle a benefit because it is used
more for the occupation than for personal use. The pay increase request is to cover the
administrative time that is above and beyond the fire calls. For the Chief there is
approximately 20 hours/week of additional paperwork that needs to be done, while the
Asst. Chiefs and Training Officer have approximately 10-15 additional hours each.
Cncl. Lehman asked what the activities are that have increased the amount of time being
spent devoted to fire activities as stated in the memo to Council. Mr. Schwaesdall stated
that there are extra committees and department meetings that they are required to attend.
There is also the additional paperwork that needs to be done including lengthy injury
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reports as needed. Mr. Schwaesdall comes to city hall daily, attends meetings including
Chief s meetings/Metro Chief s Meetings, prepares memos to council, meets with Mr.
McNeill/Mr. Voxland/Mrs. Remer, and attends civic group meeting.
Cncl. Lehman asked under whose authority are meetings made mandatory. Mr.
Schwaesdall stated that he makes this decision in order to keep up with other departments
in the area. These meetings are generally meetings that they have always attended over
the years. Mr. McNeill stated that he can attest to the fact that there are administrative
duties that could be given to a secretary that would free up the Chief and other officers to
focus more on fire activities.
Cncl. Ioos asked what the hourly pay rate is for firefighters. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that
it is currently $10.
Mayor Schmitt asked Mr. McNeill if they should vote now or go through all the items.
Mr. McNeill stated that it would be best to go through all the items because Council
would then be able to see all the issues before discussing them.
Mr. McNeill stated that there are 10 compensation items that are in practice now, but are
not in policy. These practices are billed into the budget because they have been brought
to the Council before, but there is currently no actual policy. Mr. McNeill was unable to
find any records of Council approval and therefore, they are being brought to Council for
consideration.
1. Firefighters will be paid an hourly wage for each call they attend. Mutual aid calls and
standby are considered a fire call.
2. Firefighters will be paid for attendance at all drills. For firefighters to remain active,
they need to respond to 35% of all calls. If a firefighter is at another fire service related
activity and is unable to attend the drill, they will receive credit toward the 35%
attendance requirement. However, they do not receive pay for both, one can only receive
pay for the drill/call or the other fire related activity (Le. training).
3. Firefighters will be paid for attendance at any fire department meetings.
4. A firefighter attending a conference or school will be paid for attending the class. If
they miss a call while attending the conference or school, they will receive credit toward
the 35% attendance requirement, but will not be paid for both.
Cncl. Ioos asked if it is possible for a firefighter to meet the 35% attendance requirement
without ever going to a fire call. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that it would not be possible.
Only attendance of a conference/school or drill is given credit toward the minimum if
unable to attend a fire call. Meetings are not included. If a firefighter drops below the
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minimum attendance requirement in a quarter, they cannot continue education until the
attendance is brought up.
Cncl. Ioos asked how the 35% attendance is accounted for. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that
there is a payroll sign in sheet at a fire call. That sheet is then sent up to Mrs. Remer
where she keeps track and updates monthly.
Cnc1. Ioos asked ifthere are issues with the minimum attendance. Mr. Schwaesdall stated
that there have been a few, but not many. The City's minimum is higher than most other
cities requirement of25-30%. The requirement was made higher years ago in order to
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receIve a penSIOn.
Cnc1. Menden asked ifthe 35% is calculated monthly, quarterly, or yearly. Scott Theis,
Fire Dept. Treasurer, stated that it is calculated yearly for the Relief Association. If the
35% is not met of the course ofa year, it is not counted as time served for their pension.
Cncl. Lehman asked for clarification on the pay for attendance at Fire Conference or
School. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that a firefighter attends a school in Mankato which ends
at 5 p.m., but they are required to stay overnight for more classes the next day. If a fire
call would occur after 5 p.m. (while they are waiting for the next class), they would
receive credit for attendance and be paid because they are required to stay there as a
benefit to the City. Cncl. Lehman asked how the time for pay would be calculated. Mr.
Schwaesdall stated that most of the fire calls are one hour. The time is rounded to the
nearest hour because they do not use half hours or quarter hours. Cnc1. Lehman asked
that if it were a larger fire, 5 hours, the firefighter would receive pay for the full 5 hours.
Mr. Schwaesdall stated that was correct.
5, A firefighter will receive $lO/hour for any mandatory functions as deemed by the
Chief, but it does not count toward the 35% requirement.
Cnc1. Lehman asked who determines what is mandatory. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that the
Chief does. Under the League of Minnesota Cities, if a firefighter is hurt doing extra duty
(i.e. cleaning the station for a large meeting) that is not mandatory, they would not be
able to receive workman's compensation. Cnc1. Lehman asked if Mr. McNeill oversaw
the Fire Chief Mr. McNeill stated that he does.
6. A firefighter receiving worker's compensation from the City while unable to perform
firefighting duties will not receive fire call or drill pay. If a firefighter is injured, they
would receive 2/3 of regular duty pay and 2/3 of firefighter pay, not to exceed 100% of
normal compensation. There is a $750/week cap on worker's compensation benefits. Mr.
Schwaesdall stated that most firefighters would exceed this cap with their regular full-
time job pay.
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Cncl. Clay asked that if a firefighter is exempted from the attendance requirement if off
duty on worker's compensation. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that if they were injured while
firefighting, they receive 100% attendance during that time period. If they were injured
while not firefighting, they have to take a leave of absence.
Cncl' Lehman asked if an injured firefighter had to ability to make up the difference from
the $750 worker's compensation to their regular weekly pay. Mr. McNeill stated that they
are not currently allowed to accrue sick or vacation leave and therefore cannot use that to .
make up the difference in pay. The City does carry Hartman insurance that covers
disability. That would be an additional $430/month which would help increase their
compensation.
Cncl. Joos asked if a firefighter could use their full-time employment short-term
disability if injured while firefighting. Mr. Schwaesdall stated that you could not use it if
you were injured while firefighting and not injured at their regular full-time job. Cnc!.
Joos stated that he believed they would be able to use the short-term disability if the
disability was not incurred while at the full-time job because it can be used for illnesses
such as cancer which are not incurred at their full-time job.
Cncl. Lehman asked if the League of Minnesota Cities Insurance Trust covers short-term
disability. If they did, the City would be able to help firefighters cover a gap in pay. Mr.
McNeill stated that he would research this.
7. Full-time City employees who are also fire fighters receive normal City pay if at a fire
school during normal work hours.
8. Firefighters on approved leave receive no payor attendance credit. The 35%
attendance requirement is rated for those months not on leave.
9. A firefighter will not be paid for initial training.
10. The City has to include fire officer paying when looking at worker's compensation.
Mr. Schwaesdall stated that as of January 1, 2006, no pay has been received for any
schooling/conferences because of the lack of approved policy. If this is adopted, Mr.
Schwaesdall stated that he would like to see the Council give them retroactive pay for
these schools and conferences.
Cncl. Clay asked why the firefighters were not paid this year for lack of a policy, when
they were paid in the past without a policy. Mr. McNeill stated that it was first discovered
this year that there was no formal policy. For audit purposes, there needs to be Council
approval before they can be paid for those duties.
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Cncl. Menden asked how much this retroactive pay would amount to. Mr. Schwaesdall
estimated $2,000-$3,000. Mr. McNeill stated that this is included in the budget because it
was a past practice.
Cncl. Joos asked Mr. Schwaesdall if the Fire Department was interested in hiring a
secretary this year. Mr. Schwaesdall stated he would be.
Mayor Schmitt stated that this position has not been budgeted for in 2006.
CncI. Joos stated that it didn't make sense to increase officer salary in 2006 because they
have administrative duties and then hire a person in 2007 to do the administrative duties.
It would make more logical sense to hire the secretary to do the administrative duties, and
then if there is still administrative duties to be done, increase the officer pay.
Mayor Schmitt stated that you can't hire a secretary and not have someone there to
oversee them. Mr. McNeill stated that he would like to sit down with Mr. Schwaesdall
and see what the City staff has currently to address those administrative needs. They will
then come back to council with more of a plan.
Cncl. Lehman stated that he would like to see more of a planned increase in pay that can
be more easily budgeted for instead of large lump sum increases years apart. CncI.
Lehman also felt that the regular firefight~rs should also be considered for increases in
pay.
Mayor Schmitt stated that there needs to be a long-term plan that takes into consideration
the growth of the City. A 5 year plan should be put in place to help guide the department.
Cncl. Clay stated that he agreed with the idea of a strategic plan as long as the committee
was made up of the correct key players. Cncl. Clay suggested forming to committee
tonight since most of the key players were in attendance of the meeting.
Mayor Schmitt stated that it is basically Mr. Schwaesdall's team supplemented by others.
Cncl. Joos stated that he would like to be a part of the committee. Mr. Schwaesdall stated
that any of the firefighters would be able to, but it would be adding another meeting that
they would be required to attend.
Cncl. Lehman stated that the hourly wage for the firefighters have not consistently moved
up. There were several years where pay didn't increase at all.
Cncl. J oos stated that all compensation needs to be taken into consideration, not just
hourly wage.
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Mr. Schwaesdall suggested that the hourly rate be brought up to where it should be and
then consistently increased there. after. The Stanton survey shows that the hourly pay and
officer pay is far below the top.
Cncl. Clay suggested that the committee could go over the wages/other compensation and
compare them with the Stanton to get them where they need to be. Then the committee
could focus on the long term plan.
Mayor Schmitt stated that the information in the Stanton is hard to compare because all
departments are different. There is no reporting standard.
Cncl. Lehman volunteered to be on long term plan committee.
Cncl. Clay suggesting making a motion to direct staff to put together a group to work
with the Fire Dept. Hopefully 6-8 months would be long enough for the committee to
come to a consensus.
Menden/Joos moved to accept items 1-10 as current policy for the Fire Dept. and direct
staff to prepare a resolution for those 10 items and retroactive pay to bring back for
Council approval.
CncL Lehman asked about the secretary and officer pay. Mayor Schmitt responded that
the Officer pay is not included in this motion.
Motion carried 5-0.
Mr. McNeill stated that he will bring back names for the strategic planning committee to
the next meeting.
Cncl. Menden stated that the wages need to be justified. In talking about the inconsistent
jumping in pay, it needs to be justified how we can pay a Chief$3,500 one year and then
make the position full-time and pay them $75,000. The work wouldn't quadruple in a
day, so the jump in pay needs to be justified.
Cncl. Lehman stated that if they had a plan for the next 10 years, the additional pay and
positions would all be known and justified.
Cncl. Joos stated that the administrative aspect should be addressed as soon as possible.
Having an administrative person would relieve the Officers of that duty and allow them
to focus on fire activities. The Officers could still receive an increase in pay, but not to
the level they are requesting because the administrative person would be taking care of
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some ofthose duties. Cncl. Joos would like to see the costs for hiring an administrative
person for the rest of year.
Cncl. Clay asked if the administrative person would be full-time or part-time. Mayor
Schmitt stated that it would need to be justified. This won't be a simple transition. Mayor
Schmitt stated that we don't want to give the Officers an increase in pay, then give them
an administrative employee, and then take away half the Officer pay because their duties
have changed.
Mayor Schmitt stated that he did not agree with using the funds from the sale of vehicles
to pay for an increase in salary. Those funds are used to purchase new vehicles.
Lehman/Menden moved to adjourn to Tuesday, May 2, 2006 at 7 p.m. Motion carried 5-
O. The meeting adjourned at 8: 14 p.m.
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~th s. Cox
City Clerk
Jessica Adamietz
Recording Secretary