HomeMy WebLinkAbout15.D.1. Discussion of Encroachment in Pulic Right-of-way at 1908 Rochelle Curve and 409 11th Avenue East
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CITY OF SHAKO PEE
Memorandum
TO: Mayor & City Council
Mark McNeill, City Administrator
FROM: Bruce Loney, Public Works Director
SUBJECT: Discussion of Encroachments in Public Right-of-Way at
1908 Rochelle Curve and 409 11 th Avenue E.
DATE: August 3, 2005
INTRODUCTION:
Attached to this memo is a letter from Chad & Angela Tamke who reside at 409 11 th
Avenue E. and an e-mail letter from Dan Walker who resides at 1908 Rochelle Curve, in
regard to construction of retaining walls within City right-of-way and easements. Staffs
request was to remove the retaining walls out ofthe right-of-way and for the proper set-
back for the alley encroachment and to also remove the retaining wall out of the drainage
and utility easement on 17th A venue. The purpose ofthis agenda item is for Council to
discuss these encroachments and decide whether to require the property owners to
remove the retaining walls or enter into an encroachment agreement for these
installations.
BACKGROUND:
Per City Code, in Chapter 4, Section 4.03, Subd. 1 which is for Fence Construction
Requirements and Subd. 2 Prohibitions and Limitations. outlined the requirements for
fences and limitations in the easements in the City of Shakopee. In Subd. 1 on fence
requirements, a building permit for fences less than six feet is not required. Fences over
six feet in height require a conditional use permit and a building permit. The height of
the fence would be measured from the existing ground and not on top of the retaining
wall. In both of these locations, the property owner was planning to construct a retaining
wall to three feet high and then place a six foot high fence, which would require a
conditional use permit for an over height fence.
Other requirements in Subd. 1, require a 3 foot setback from the property line when
abutting an alley. The retaining wall being built at 409 11 th Avenue E. the property
owner appears to be within City alley right-of-way and does not meet the proper setback.
In Subd. 2 of Section 4.30 of the City Code, states no landscaping not limited to trees,
shrub, fences, walks, and berms shall be placed in easements of the City or SPUC that
will interfere with the ingress or egress by the City or SPUC for utility maintenance.
In the area along 1 ih Avenue, the City does have its I-NET fiber and Shakopee Public
Utilities has its electrical main line within the 10 foot drainage and utility easement. Also
in this easement are Time Warner and Qwest's fiber optic lines. The property owner was
constructing a three-foot high retaining wall and would be adding that amount of fill over
the drainage and utility easement area.
With this background on City requirements, I would then address each particular separate
encroachment issue.
409 11th Avenue E.
The property owner has written a letter to City Council outlining the facts as to how the
retaining wall did get built and what attempts were made to discuss with City staff, prior
to construction. As mentioned previously in the City Code, there is no requirement for a
building permit for a fence or retaining wall unless the fence is over six feet in height and
the retaining wall is over four feet in height. In regard to the retaining wall at 409 11 th
A venue E., Mr. Tamke did meet with a Planner in our office and was given a fence
handout, which is attached and includes the criteria of Section 4.03, Subd, 1 in the City
Gode. In this handout is the requirement ofa 3-foot setback from the rear property line
abutting a public alley. The property owner misinterpreted the requirement to be 3 feet
off ofthe edge ofthe alley and measured from the gravel surface portion of the alley.
Some times our alleys are not in the middle ofthe 16-foot right-of-way which is the
normal width platted for alleys, thus the property owner needs to determine where his
property line is in order to set the retaining wall to the proper setback. The property
owner was also informed for the need of a Conditional Use Permit (CUP) if there was an
over height fence. The property owner is correct that he was unaware that he would need
a CUP for over a 6- foot high fence, because he was measuring from the top of the
retaining wall and not from the existing ground.
Attached is a photograph showing the retaining wall and the alley. The retaining wall is
being constructed around an electrical pole with an anchor line. With the proper setback
the anchor and power pole would be outside of the retaining wall and would be easy to
maintain by SPUC. Staff did investigate this issue after being informed of it after the
July 5,2005 city council meeting. After finding some property comers, staffthen met
with the property owner to inform that he may be in violation of City Code on his
installation. At that time the property owner did cease his construction activities and thus
the letter requesting a Joint Use or Encroachment Agreement.
The issues with allowing the installation to remain are that it will hamper operations and
maintenance of the alley as well as maintenance of the electric line and pole by SPUc.
The retaining wall and fence would also act as a barrier for snow storage and in heavy
snow seasons would require the snow to be stored on the east side of the alley. The
property owner will be present to discuss this with the City Council.
The property owner has appealed by a letter to the City Council to decide on whether a
joint use agreement can be entered into for this fence and retaining wall in city right of
way. One item that probably needs to be done in order to see the full impact ofthe
installation is to have the property line surveyed so the actual encroachment can be
verified. To be consistent with City Code, a CUP is needed for the overheight fence.
1908 Rochelle Curve
The property owner has submitted an e-mail letter to City Council with the facts as he
understands them in the installation of the retaining wall. Attached to this memo is a
picture showing the retaining wall up against the sidewalk on 17th A venue. Also attached
are a stop work order dated July 20, 2005 and a letter that was sent by certified mail on
July 5,2005 but never received and a copy of the City Code of the requirements and
limitations. Also included is a typical section of 1 ih A venue in this area showing a one-
foot distance from the sidewalk to the right-of-way line. Also there exists a lO-foot
drainage and utility easement along 17th A venue, which was previously, mentioned
containing the City's I-NET cable as well as SPUC's electrical main line.
In regard to building the retaining wall fence in his yard, it does appear that the property
owner may be on City right-of way, which will soon be County right-of-way upon
completion of 17th Avenue to C.R. 83. In a letter from Mr. Walker, he does describe a
telephone conversation with a City employee in which he felt he was told that there was
no building permit needed and he could proceed to go ahead as planned. He understood
that he needed to find his property lines and stay within them. In talking with other staff,
the phone conversation was indicated a permit is not needed unless the retaining wall is
over 4 feet high and also stated that the retaining wall should be out of City right-of way.
It appears that the retaining wall is built within City right-of-way, which would be turned
over to the County in the future. In the picture that is enclosed, the property owner to the
east did install a fence and has kept the fence one foot from the sidewalk where the
property line is most likely. The main difference with the retaining wall is the altering of
grade of at least three feet and a more permanent structure that is more difficult to remove
than a fence to the east when repairing or replacing utility lines. Again, in this matter, a
surveyed property line is probably in order to determine the actual encroachment of the
retaining wall.
Staff did conduct an attached survey of cities on the question of fences and retaining
walls in easements or right of way. Some cities such as Prior Lake and Lakeville require
fence permits while most do not. No fees were charged for permits in Prior Lake and
Plymouth. All cities do not require a retaining wall permit if the wall is 4 feet or less.
Most cities do require permission to place fences or walls in their easements with
conditions. Savage requires a waiver by the property owner stating that they are
responsible for removal and replacement costs ifthe city needs to access the easement.
Eden Prairie and Plymouth do not allow walls or fences within any drainage or ponding
easements. In Bloomington, any encroachment into public easements requires written
approval of the Engineering Division. Almost all cities require the property owner to be
responsible for the removal and restoration of items resulting in(any future utility work.
On the issue of easement or right of way encroachment, cities do struggle with the
enforcement of these ordinances. In both instances, the property owners were well
intended in making improvements to their property. They also did contact staff at the city
prior to doing the work which is usually not the case on most fence or retaining wall
installations in the city.
The city does have easements around each lot and some easements are more important
than others. Ifthere is a sewer, storm sewer or watermain line or a maintenance access
point to access a city facility for maintenance, these easements would be the highest
priority. Easements where there are no utility lines need to serve a drainage purpose and
encroachments in the easement may be acceptable if drainage is maintained and with the
provision that the property owner is responsible for removal and restoration of the
easement area if needed by the city.
In summary, the options available for council to consider on the retaining wall/fence
installations would be as follows:
1. Require the property owner to remove the retaining wall to outside the
easement at 1908 Rochelle Curve and to remove the retaining wall to the
proper setback along the alley at 409 11 th East.
2. Allow an encroachment agreement to be entered into for the retaining wall
installation to remain with the agreement to be prepared by the city attorney,
with the understanding that if the retaining wall needed to be removed due to
the City or SPUC maintenance needs in the future, the removal (and
subsequent relocation) would be at the property owner's expense.
3. Provide direction to staff on a different alternative.
In regards to the global issue of easement encroachment, it is staff's intent to review the
existing ordinance with the city attorney and look at possible revisions for council
approval. Also a policy handout will be prepared explaining the city's ordinance and
policies on easements and include this with future building permits and on the web site.
Staff would also like to be proactive in notifying property owners of critical easements,
that in the event of the city needing to utilize the easement that the property owner would
be responsible for removing and restoration of any encroachment into the easement that
interferes with the city's ability to maintain its facilities.
ALTERNATIVES:
1. Approve a motion requiring the retaining wall at 409 11 th A venue East be removed
from the City's right of way and placed at the proper 3-foot setback from the rear
property line.
2. Approve a motion requiring the retaining wall at 1908 Rochelle Curve be removed
from the City's right of way and drainage and utility area.
3. Approve a motion to allow the retaining wall at 409 11 th A venue East to remain with
an encroachment agreement as prepared by the city attorney.
4. Approve a motion to allow the retaining wall at 1908 Rochelle Curve to remain with
an encroachment agreement as prepared by the city attorney.
5. Direct staff to review the city's existing ordinance on Prohibitions and Limitations
within city easements.
6. Table for additional information.
RECOMMENDATION:
Staff s recommendation is for the property owners to be directed to remove the walls to
areas meeting the code in Chapter 4. The Council has the discretion to allow
encroachments in city right of way, thus this is a policy question for the council. Staff
will follow up with the city attorney on reviewing the ordinance for any possible changes
that are needed and work on a handout providing information on fences and retaining
walls in the city. Depending on the discussion, Council may want to table this item and
request more information before making a decision.
ACTION REQUESTED:
1. Approve a motion to remove or to allow the retaining wall at 409 11 th Avenue
East to remain with an encroachment agreement as prepared by the city attorney.
2. Approve a motion to remove or to allow the retaining wall at 1908 Rochelle
Curve remain with an encroachment agreement as prepared by the city attorney.
3. Direct staff to review the city's existing ordinance on Prohibitions and
Limitations within city easements.
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Bruce Loney
Public Works DIrector
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ENGRlEMPLOYEEFOWERlPPENNINGTON/COUNCIlJROWENCROACHMENTS
94.03
V. This municipality may adopt by reference any or aI/ of the fol/owing optional
chapters of Minnesota Rules: Chapter 1306, Special Fire Protection System; and
Chapter 1335, Floodproofing Regulations, parts 1335.0600 to 1335.'1200;
W. This municipality may ad9Pt by reference appendix chapter K (Grading), of the
2002 Supplementto the 2000 International Building Code.
SEC. 4.02. Repealed; (Ord. 123, July 19, 1983)
SEC. 4.03. BUILDING PERMITS.
It is unlawful for any person to erect, construct, enlarge, alter, repair, move, improve; remove,
convert, or demolish any building or structure, or any part or portion thereof,including, but not
limited to, the plumbing, electrical, ventilating, heating or air conditioning systems, water wells and
on-site disposal,-systems therein, or remove or displace any soil, ground or earth preparatory to any
. action, or cause the same to be done, without first obtaining a separate building permit for each
such building or structure from the Building Official. It is also unlawful for any firm, person or
corporation to erect, enlarge, improve, construct or move a fence in all zoning districts of the City
except agricultural within the corporate limits of the City without first obtaining a permit.
Notwithstanding any provision of this Section and in addition thereto, it is Unlawful for any person to
remove or displace any soil, ground, gravel or earth without first obtaining a permit from the proper
City officials.
Subd. 1. Fence Construction Reauirements.
A. Fences less than six (6) feet in height shall not require a building permit. Fences
six (6) feet in height or greater shaUrequire both a conditional use permit (CUP)
and building permit. All proposed fence designs for fences six (6) feet in height or
greater shall be approved by the Building Official prior to the issuance of a building
permit. (Added, Ord. 591, March 1,2001)
B. All fencing erected in the City may be constructed adjacent to the property lines. If
a fence on the rear property line abuts a public alley there must be a three (3) foot
setback.
C. Type of construction shall be of any materials not deemed hazardous by the
Building Official and in appearance not deemed detrimental to the property values
.of the area by the City Planner.
D. Additional Requirements:
1. Fences six (6) feet and under shall be permitted anywhere on the lot
except in the front yard setback. In the case of. a double frontage lot,
fences six (6) feet high and under shall. be permitted within the front yard
setback on a street frontage from which access is not obtained. (Ord. 550,
June 10,1999)
Fences up to three (3) feet in height shall be allowed in the front yard
setback. (Amended, Ord. 571, July 27,2000)
2. Fences in excess of the above heights shall require a conditional use
permit.
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Subd. 2. Prohibitions 'and LImitations. '" . ; .'
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A- No building permit shall be issued for. the construction, alteration;' extension or
enlargement of any permaRent building, structure or fixture on, over, under or
across any easement of the City or Shakopee Public Utility. Commission without
first. obtaining written approval from the. City. or the' Shakopee Public Utility
Commission. EXCEPTION: Building permits may be issued for buildings
constructed prior to enactment of this Subdivision for repairs or alterations;
however, if a building Is damaged by more than 50% of Its fair market-valuej no
building permit for repairs or alterations shall be Issued. (Ord, 492', July 24, 1997)
B. Movable buildings, structures or fixtures of less than 120 square feet and weighing
less than 400 pounds may be placed on an easement only if they can be moved.
without damage during an. emergency.
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C. No Improvement far Ingress, egress, .or parking lots shall be permitted within a
public easement without. a permit th.erefor. pursuant to Section 7.07 of .the
Shakopee City Code.
D. ..... No landscaping Including but not lImlted.to,trees, shrubs, fences, rocks and berms
shall be placed on, over or across'.any'easement of the City.or. S.P.U.C. that Will
Interfere With the ingress or egress by the City or S.P.U.C. for utility maintenance.
E. The City or S.P.U.C., whom~ver enters upon the easement will only replace
,movable buildings as defined In Sub-paragraph B above, fences, driveways or
walkways In easements for which the. proper permits were obtained prior to
construction and shall either seed or sod to replace turf. The City.or. S.P.U.C. shall .' .
not be responsible for replacement of any building, structure' or fixture installed
without having obtained the proper permit or replacement of any landscaping
except turf. EXCEPTION: Work performed prior to enactment of this Subdivision
'may not have been required to have .had a permit. In this case replacements will
be made. (Ord. 67, June 18, 1981; Ord. 75, November 12,1981; Ord, 115, March
, . '24, 1983-; Ord.' 129.. August ii, 1983; Ord. 221, July. 30, .1987; .Ord. 361, August
1,9, 1993; Ord. 403, March 2, 1995)
SEC. 4.04. FOREIGN MATTER IN STREETS.
Subd. 1. General Prohibition. No person shall drive or move. a vehicle wplch carries into or
deposits In any public street, alley, or other public place, foreign matter of any kind, Including but not
limited to mud, dirt, sticky substances, or litter. A person who violates this provision. shall
immediately remove the foreign matter, and upon failure to do so may be prpsecuted.
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Subd. 2. Construction 'Sltes:'Any person, firm, or corporation to whom a grading permit, building
permit, street cut permit, or utility permit has been Issued shall remove at least once each working
day aflY foreign matter carried into or deposited in any public place by any vehicle. entering or
leaving the construction site. (Ord. 362, September 3D, 1993)
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Chad and Angela T amke
409 11th Ave. East
Shakopee, MN 55379
952-233-4993
July 26, 2005
RE: Joint Use Agreement
Dear Mayor Schmitt and members of the Shakopee City Council,
We are requesting a Joint Use Agreement from the eity of Shakopee. This
agreement would allow a fence and retaining wall on which we have began
construction along the alley way adjacent to our property to remain in place,
despite the fact that has been determined to be too close to the right-of-way. It is
our understanding that this fence and retaining wall would be removed at our
own expense, in the event that the eity would need to gain access to this area.
In June of this year, we began a project to improve our property that includes
building an 18-inch retaining wall to level our land and the placement of a privacy
fence, measuring less than 6-feet, on top of that. To date, we have set the posts
for our fence and constructed 95% of the retaining wall at a cost of $1018.14 for
rentals, lumber, landscaping block, and other supplies.
We wanted to do this project properly, so before we even purchased supplies for
this project, ehad went to the eity Planning office to obtain information regarding
permits, codes, rules, etc. He asked very specific questions regarding our
retaining wall, addressing the fact that our property is adjacent to the alley, as
well as the fact that we have a telephone pole near the edge of our yard. He was
given a "Fence Handout" and a sheet that included a picture of our property
along with a property description. In addition to these pieces of information, he
was also given an application for a Conditional Use Permit and an information
packet regarding the CUP. He was informed that the fence need only be 3-feet
off the edge of the alley, which the gentleman in the office reiterated by writing "3'
off alley" on the sheet with our property description. Therefore, we set our fence
posts three feet from the edge of the alley, which would enclose the telephone
pole in our yard. We constructed our retaining wall in front of the posts, unaware
at that time that the retaining wall was included in the eity's definition of a fence.
We did not think we would need the Conditional Use Permit, since our fence
panels would be under the 6 foot height requirement.
On July 1, after the posts were set and before the retaining wall was built beyond
the first course, Angela observed two gentlemen in front of our property having a
discussion that appeared to be about our home improvement project at about
8:30 a.m. One was driving a eity vehicle and wearing a fluorescent work vest.
The other drove what appeared to be a personal vehicle and wore business
attire. She went outside to make herself available for questions, but neither of
the gentlemen approached her. On July 12, a uniformed gentleman driving a
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eity vehicle came to our door to inform us that our project was illegal and we
would not only need to stop construction immediately, but the retaining wall and
fence posts would need to be removed. During this week and a half of elapsed
time, the wall went from a single base course to a fully erected wall, secured by
landscaping block adhesive.
It is not our objective to deliberately disregard Shakopee's City eodes, nor is it
our intent to create an eyesore for our neighbors. Rather, our objective in
constructing this retaining wall and privacy fence is to create a safe environment
for our 6 and 2 year-old boys to play in and to improve our property. In the 5
years we have lived in our home, we have called the police to remove drug
paraphernalia from our yard. We have also reported "suspicious activity" (we
witnessed what appeared to be a drug-related transaction), acts of vandalism to
our property, vandalism of our neighbor's property where a D.W.1. was issued,
and stray dogs wandering into our yard and approaching our home. We have
also witnessed people stopping their vehicles in the alley to urinate on our
neighbor's tree, vehicles and snowmobiles driving through our yard, and
excessive speeding in the alley. We find these activities to be unacceptable in
keeping with the safety and well-being of our children.
It has been brought to our attention that the close proximity of the retaining wall
and fence to the right-of-way could pose problems by limiting the eity's access to
the telephone pole, as well as impeding snow removal and storage. Therefore,
we have created a couple of different modifications to our design that may
provide for some compromise to aid in resolving these issues. Naturally, our first
choice (Original Plan) is for our design to stand as is. However, we have also
created a plan (Change 1) that involves the indentation of our fence, leaving the
pole outside of the fence for convenient access. Another change in our design
(ehange 2) involves the same indentation of the fence, but the retaining wall
would come in around the pole as well. All of the panels in our fence designs
remove easily to provide greater access to the telephone pole. Please refer to
the enclosed design plans for further explanation.
We appeal to you, Mayor Schmitt and members of the City Council, to take our
situation into consideration when deciding whether to allow a Joint Use
Agreement. Again, our primary objective in building this fence and retaining wall
is to provide a safe place for our children to play. Unfortunate failures in
communication lead to the errors we made in our construction. It would create a
tremendous financial burden for us to replace the fence posts and rebuild the
retaining wall, as none of the materials would be salvageable.
Thank you for your consideration,
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CITY OF SHAKOPEE
FENCE HANDOUT
Fences less than six (6) feet in height shall not require a building permit. Fences
six (6) feet in height of greater shall require both a conditional use permit (CUP)
and building permit. All proposed fence designs for fences six (6) feet in height
or greater shall be approved by Building Official prior to the issuance of the
building permit.
Information regarding the proposed fence height, design, and materials along
with a drawing which shows the proposed fence location, must be submitted with
the application for a Building Permit.
The Shakopee eity Code defines a fence as "any partition, structure, wall or gate
erected as a dividing marker, barrier, or enclosure, and located along a property
boundary, or within a lot". Section 4.03, Subd. 1, of the Shakopee City eode
establishes the following criteria for the construction of fences:
A. All fencing erected in the eity may be constructed adjacent to the property
lines. If a fence on the rear property line abuts a public alley there must
. .be a three (3)foot.setback.
B. Type of construction shall be of any materials not deemed hazardous by
the Building Official and in appearance not deemed detrimental to the
property values of the area by the City Planner.
e. Additional requirements:
a. Fences six (6) feet and under shall be permitted anywhere on the
lot except in the front yard setback. In the case of a double
frontage lot, fences six (6) feet high and under shall be permitted
within the front yard setback on a street frontage from which access
is not obtained. (ord. 550, June 10, 1999). Fences up to three feet
in height shall be allowed in the front yard setback (ord. 571, July
18,2000).
b. Fences in excess of the above heights shall require a conditional
use permit.
D. The fence must comply with the Fire Departments requirements, which
state that there must be a 3-foot (914.4 mm) clear space maintained
around the circumference of fire hydrants except as otherwise required or
approved.
To locate utilities please contact Gopher State at 651-454-0002.
Fences located in any easement are subject to removal, at the property owner's
expense, if requested by a governmental or utility agency.
For additional information on these requirements, please contact the Planning
Department at (952) 233-9300.
resident request Page 1 of 4
Bruce Loney
From: Mark McNeill
Sent: Monday, July 25,20058:42 AM
To: Jeff Weyandt
Cc: Bruce Loney
Subject: FW: resident request
I've had three Councilors ask about his one. I told them that it will be on the agenda for next Tuesday.
Jeff, have you personally spoken with this guy? Do we know who or if he talked to someone here, and got bad
information?
From: Dan Walker [mailto:texasranger2380@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sat 7/23/20057:34 PM
To: John Schmitt; jlhent6@att.net; terryjoos@hotmail.com; Steve Menden; mlehman@mn.rr.com
Subject: resident request
July 23, 2005
Dan Walker
1908 Rochelle Curve
Shakopee, MN 55379
PHONE: Home: 952-933-9609
VVork:952-941-1000
EMAIL: Home: texasranger2380@yahoo.com
VV ork: dwalker@lssdata.com
Mayor Schmitt and Councilors Helkamp, Joos, Menden,
and Lehman:
I am writing to ask for your help regarding an issue
that I have encountered with building a retaining
wall/fence in my yard.
My wife and I purchased our fIrst home and moved to
Shakopee last sununer - excited about the possibilities
of owning and working on our new home. After shopping
around, it seemed that Shakopee had a lot of
opportunities for young families and was the right fIt
for us. So, we eventually settled on our current home
at 1908 Rochelle Curve and excitedly moved in. Sadly,
since that time, our view of the city of Shakopee has
gone downhill despite our best efforts to stay
positive about our home purchase.
Not long after we moved in, there was a murder on our
block only a few houses down from ours. It was a very
unsettling experience especially after just moving
into a brand new community. Despite that, we have
stayed optimistic about our home, our projects, and
our choice of community. Unfortunately, now we are
dealing with a completely different sort of issue that
directly involves the City of Shakopee.
7/27/2005
resident request Page 2 of 4
One of the things my wife and I were most excited
about when purchasing our home was fixing up our yard.
When we bought this house there was only one tree and
no landscaping whatsoever done to the yard. The first
thing we decided we'd like to do is provide some
privacy and boundaries for future children/pets in our
backyard by putting up a fence, as well as
preserve/enhance our sloping yard with a retaining
wall.
The back of our yard is up against 17th Avenue (a
fairly busy non-residential road). Our backyard
gradually declines from the back of the house towards
17th A venue. However, the fmal12 feet of our
backyard (closest to 17th Avenue) drops off
drastically - about a 4 foot drop off at the end. Our
plan was to build a 3 foot high retaining wall on the
17th A venue side of our yard, fill behind the wall
with drainage sand and then dirt, and then put a 6
foot high privacy fence up after filling in behind the
wall. These were to block the noise and commotion on
17th Avenue.
So, with that plan in mind, I called the City of
Shakopee toward the end of May, 2005 (before I
purchased any materials or started any work on the
project) to verify that my plan was up to city codes
and to see if! needed a building permit, etc. At
that time, I asked several very specific questions
about what I could or could not do and gave details
about my plans including the five following items:
1. I specified that my address was 1908 Rochelle
Curve.
2. I described my plan as I did above - saying that
the 3 foot tall retaining wall would be on the edge of
my property nearest 17th A venue with a fence on top of
it.
3. I asked if there was any reason to have someone
from the city come out and look at my yard and verify
that my plan fit within city regulations.
4. I asked if there was any reason that I would need a
building permit to put in a 3 foot retaining wall in
that location with a 6 foot privacy fence on top of
it.
5. I asked if there were any restrictions on my
property that would get in the way of my plan to build
this retaining wall and fence.
The responses that I got were that I did not need any
building permits and that there was no reason why I
couldn't go ahead as I had planned. The lady I talked
to told me to call Gopher State if I was going to be
digging and to make sure to fmd the property stakes
with a metal detector to determine where my property
lines were and to stay within those.
7/27/2005
resident request Page 3 of 4
So, with that, I proceeded as planned:
June 15,2005 - had 360 retaining wall blocks
delivered for a total of $2003.27
July 2, 2005 - completed the retaining wall portion of
my project.
July 15,2005 - had 11 yards of drainage sand and 22
yards of black dirt delivered for a total of $577.37
July 19,2005 - had about 1/4 of the drainage sand
distributed behind the retaining wall.
July 20, 2005 at 9PM - found a STOP WORK notice stuck
in my front door.
July 21,2005 midday - called the number on the STOP
WORK notice and was told that I was building my
retaining wall on a city right of way and a drainage
utility easement and that I was to move it a total of
11 feet towards my house.
July 21, 2005 at 6PM - received a letter in my mailbox
dated July 5, 2005 saying that I had until July 25,
2005 to move the retaining wall or further action
would be taken. At this time, I also received a map
of my property showing the drainage utility easement
and a copy of the rule stating that "No landscaping
including but not limited to trees, shrubs, fences,
rocks and berms shall be placed on, over or across any
easement of the City or S.P.U.C. that will interfere
with the ingress or egress by the City or S.P.U.C.
[Shakopee Public Utility Commission] for utility
maintenance. "
July 22, 2005 midday - called the number on the STOP
WORK notice again to ask for an extension on the
amount of time I had before further action would be
taken. It was agreed that I would talk to Bruce Loney
when he returns from his vacation on July 27,2005 to
renegotiate the date by which I may have to remove the
retaining wall.
The above timeline brings you up to the current
situation on July 23,2005: I have 360 blocks built
into a very nice looking retaining wall that is
apparently sitting on a drainage utility easement. I
also have 33 yards of sand and dirt piled in my yard.
Without a retaining wall, I feel my yard will slowly
erode down the back slope of my yard. Besides that,
without the retaining wall I have no place to put the
blocks or the dirt - not to mention the fact that I do
not have any money left to have them removed at this
time.
I feel that I took all of the necessary precautions to
make sure that I was within city ordinances before
starting this project. I called the city office and
asked all the questions that I feel I should have
7/27/2005
resident request Page 4 of 4
asked. I made very clear what I intended to do with
this project and where I intended to do it. I
strongly feel that it should have been during this
phone call in May, 2005 that I was made aware of both
the property map and the city ordinance mentioned
above - NOT on July 21, 2005 - 2 months oflabor and
$2580.67 worth of materials late.
What I am requesting is some sort of variance for my
property to allow this retaining wall and fence to go
into the drainage utility easement. It seems that
other such arrangements have been made in the past, as
even my immediate neighbors have shrubs and fences
built in this drainage utility easement. The
retaining wall is sturdy, but is not cemented together
in any way and is no more permanent than a fence, a
tree, or a shrub. I would be willing to put whatever
legal documentation is necessary on the title of my
home (or wherever) stating that the homeowner of 1908
Rochelle Curve would be immediately responsible for
the costs of removing this retaining wall in the case
that any utility work needed to be done by the city
within this drainage utility easement - or something
along those lines.
I would greatly appreciate anything you can do to
assist in this matter. I would be more than willing
to attend a meeting of the city council to discuss any
options further if you feel that would be helpful.
Please do not hesitate to call or email me using any
of the contact information I provided at the top of
this email. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Daniel J. Walker - Shakopee home owner and resident
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SHAKOPEE, MINNESOTA
OFFICE OF BUILDING OFFICIAL
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1908 Rochelle Curve
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Dear Kristin,
It has come to my attention that you are building a retaining wall on the back of your
property. It appears that you have built this in the City of Shakopee right of way and not
on your property. The City of Shakopee right of way along 17th Ave. is 1 foot (O.3m)
behind the sidewalk.
Also, you can not build a retaining wall in the drainage and utility easement - which for
your property is 10 feet across the back. (See enclosed Certificate of Survey). City code
4.03 - no landscaping including rocks and berms shall be placed on, over any easement
of the City
Please be advised that you will have to remove your retaining wall from the right of way
and drainage and utility easement by the 25th of July or further action will be taken. If
you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Bonnie Horner
Right of Way Permits
952-233-9365
Cell 612-369-4572
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SURVEY FOR: LAURENT LAND DEVELOPMENT, INC..
LEGAL DESCRIPTION:
Lot 10, Block 1, FRENCH TRACE 2ND ADDITION according to the
recorded plat thereof, situate in Scott County, Minnesota.
I hereby certify that this map was prepared by me or under my direct supervision and
, that I am a. duly licensed Land Surveyor under the laws of the State of Minnesota.
Dated this 22nd day of October, 1999.
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Min esota License No. 20281
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1. The orientation of this bearing system is based on the North line of
Lot 10, Block 1, FRENCH TRACE 2ND ADDITION which is assumed
to have a bearhig of North 89 degrees 30 minutes 38 seconds East.
2. Area of the property described hereon is 10,023 square feet or 0.2301 acres.
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City of Savage (Brian Tucker-Planning)
Permits are not required for fences. They can be placed in easements. Small retaining
walls are allowed within easements and do not require permits. Large retaining walls do
require approval by engineering. Included in the approval is a waiver stating that the
resident is responsible for removal and replacement costs if the city needs to access the
easement.
City of Lakeville (Jay and Leif)
Permits are required for fences and they are allowed on easements. In the permit it states
the owners' responsibilities if the city needs to access the easement. Small retaining walls
are allowed within easements and permits are not required for them. Most ponds which
are less than 10 years old are located on city owned outlots. Jay stated that this makes it
much easier ofthe city to access to ponds. If there is no outlot, the city has 20 foot
easements. The city has paid for the cost of replacement sod on the properties they have
had to access.
City of Prior Lake (Robert Hutchins)
Fence permits are required. They are free because they generally just look at the location
of the fence on the property. If the fence is going to be placed over a pipe, lift station, or
any location that requires regular access, they inform the property owner that it is their
responsibility to remove and replace at their cost. However, they have ended up paying
for most of the costs because the council has felt that is the best thing to do for public
relations. They are in the process oftaking a homeowner to court because they will not
remove a fence that is in the easement. They would like the judge to order the owners to
remove it before the city goes in to take down. Retaining walls less than 4 feet do not
require a permit. Nothing can be placed in an easement that would impede the drainage.
So if a small retaining wall would affect the drainage the city would ask them to remove
the wall. Most of the ponds are not on city outlots. They are starting to pave some of the
accesses to ponds.
City of Eden Prairie (Randy & Leslie)
Permits are not required for the construction of fences less than 6 feet or small retaining
walls. Neither fences nor retaining walls are allowed in drainage easements. They have
had problems where residents construct in the easements. On one occasion the builder
actually worked with the city to conduct a study as to how the illegal retaining wall
would affect to function of the pond. After a couple of years it was determined that the
retaining wall would not negatively impact the pond and they allowed it to remain. Most
ponds that are less than 8 years old are on city owned outlots.
City of Bloomington (website)
In all zoning districts:
Retaining walls up to four feet in height are permitted at any location in a front yard
provided that a front setback of not less than t€m feet shall be maintained and at any
location in a side or rear yard with no minimum setback from any property line. There
shall be no encroachment into public easements of record without the written approval of
the Issuing Authority.
Fences may be placed in easement areas with the approval ofthe City of Bloomington
Engineering Division. A fence must not affect drainage because oflocation or debris
buildup. Any future utility work could result in the removal ofthe fence. Removal and
restoration would be at the homeowner's expense. Easement information must be
obtained from the Engineering Division at 952-563-4870 prior to the installation of any
fence.
City of Blaine (website)
No fences shall be allowed or constructed on street right-of-ways. Fences may, by permit,
be placed on public utility easements so long as the structures do not interfere in any way
with existing underground or over ground utilities. Further, the City or any utility
company having authority to use such easements, shall not be liable for repair or
replacement of such fences in the event they are moved, damaged, or destroyed by virtue
of the lawful use of said easement.
City of Chanhassen (website)
A permit is required for a retaining wall if the wall is over 4 feet tall. The retaining wall
may not encroach in the drainage of the property. Contact the City ofChanhassen
Engineering Department at 952-227-1160 regarding drainage issues.
City of Eagan (website)
Question: What do I do if I want to place a fence, sprinkler system, or plant shrubs, etc.
in my yard adjacent to the street?
Answer: Most City residential streets include a minimum of 60' of public right of way. If
your street is 32' wide, (City Standard) this means that approximately 12-13' behind the
curb is designated City Right of Way. This area is intended for underground utility
installations and winter snow storage and should be kept clear of any item that may be
damaged. Fences, boulevard trees etc, should be placed behind this area. The city is not
responsible for damage to Sprinkler systems or other items located in the Right of Way.
City of Plymouth (website)
Retaining walls shall not be placed within any drainage or ponding easement unless
reviewed and approved by the City Engineer. There is no charge for permits for fences
not exceeding 6 feet in height, or retaining walls not exceeding 4 feet in height.
Fences are not permitted within wetland buffer areas.
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BLOOMINGTON Information Sheet
MINNESOTA
Height Fences may be placed in easement areas with the
approval of the City of Bloomington Engineering Division.
Fences shall not exceed six feet above the natural grade. A fence must not affect drainage because of location or
A fence may be erected six feet above the grade of a debris buildup. Any future utility work could result in the
retaining wall only if the drop to the natural grade (or the removal of the fence. Removal and restoration would be at
next level of the retaining wall) is at least eighteen inches the homeowner's expense. Easement information must be
away (horizontally) from the fence. If the eighteen inches obtained from the Engineering Division at 952-563-4870
cannot be maintained, the top of the fence may only be six prior to the installation of any fence.
feet above the natural grade.
Utilities
Permits Before you dig, call Gopher State One-Call at
No building permit is required. 651-454-0002 to locate utility lines. The owner is
Materials responsible for damage to underground utilities.
The City of Bloomington does not dictate which side of the Swimming pools
fence must be "finished". Neither electric nor barbed wire See City of Bloomington Pool/Spa Permit Requirements
fences are allowed in the City of Bloomington. Information Sheet for requirements on pool fences.
Location Screening
Fences under six feet may be erected anywhere on the See City of Bloomington Exterior Storage: Residential
owner's property. The property owner is responsible for Districts Information Sheet handout for requirements on
locating property lines. Property irons (buried in each screening fences.
corner of the lot) should be located with a metal detector Commercial properties
before a fence is erected. Property boundaries generally
lie 30 feet from the Questions about fences in areas zoned for commercial or
center of the street. Intersection = =
Property dimensions industrial uses should be directed to the City of
may be obtained by Bloomington Planning Division at 952-563-8920.
calling the Building Property
and Inspection Stake
Division at 952-563- ~
8930 (8 a.m. - 4:30
p.m., Monday -
Friday). The owner ~
may also hire a
surveyor to locate the Boulevard
property lines. The
City of Bloomington does not survey properties. Fences
must not encroach on adjacent properties. Maintenance of
both sides of the fence (painting, mowing, etc.) should be
considered when determining placement.
No fence shall block the view of traffic. Fences erected on
a corner lot must maintain a 15 foot clear view triangle. 8' Tree with 12"or
See illustration. less trunk
The City of Bloomington does not settle property line permitted if
trimmed to at least
disputes between neighbors, including, but not limited to, 8' above street.
disputes over the placement of fences, hedges, and trees.
(The City does enforce required setbacks for placement of
houses, garages, decks, accessory buildings, driveways,
etc.)
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Variances Bloomington City Code
Division E. Intersections, Section 17.31.
A variance is required to erect a fence over six feet high on Clear View Triangle
the side and rear yards. Such a fence must be set back at On property at any corner formed by intersecting streets, it
least ten feet from the side property lines and 30 feet from shall be unlawful for the owner or occupant to install, set
the front and rear property lines. A building permit is out, maintain or to permit the installation or maintenance
required to erect a fence higher than six feet above the of any sign, fence, hedge, tree, shrubbery, natural growth,
natural grade. For more information on variances, call the building, construction or other obstructions to a clear view
City of Bloomington Planning Division at 952-563-8920. to a height greater than three feet above the level of the
center of the adjacent intersection within the triangle of
land formed on the corner of the lot by measuring a
distance of 15 feet along each lot line from the street-
property line intersection. It is hereby declared that any
such installation or construction within the clear view
triangle as herein defined is a public nuisance and
encumbrance and obstruction to the public streets. Code,
1958, S 161.02
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